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	<title>Comments on: A History of Cell Wall Deficient Bacteria: A Selection of Researchers Who Have Worked with the L-form</title>
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		<title>By: Paul Albert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Albert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, I just saw these comments, and I just want to say that the &quot;Zapper&quot; is an exceedingly dubious way to treat chronic diseases. From what I have seen, there is zero evidence, either theoretically or clinically, that the device does anything the least bit useful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, I just saw these comments, and I just want to say that the &#8220;Zapper&#8221; is an exceedingly dubious way to treat chronic diseases. From what I have seen, there is zero evidence, either theoretically or clinically, that the device does anything the least bit useful.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Proal</title>
		<link>http://bacteriality.com/2007/08/18/history/comment-page-1/#comment-16029</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy Proal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 16:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dr. Quell,

Thanks for sharing.  I personally have never heard of using the zapper to treat any inflammatory condition.  Also, when you blend of oils, do they contain any omega 3?  If so, they contain vitamin D and could simply be suppressing the innate immune response against L-form bacteria.  My major question about the way you treat your patients is - do they experience a powerful bacterial die-off reaction when administered the zapper and oils?  Since it is now known that L-form bacteria cannot be killed without generating an inflammatory response that leads to temporary rises in disease symptoms, do your patients deal with such symptom exacerbation?

If not, I feel you may not be targeting L-forms completely.  I&#039;m just trying to be honest here, I don&#039;t mean to insult your work.  On the contrary, I applaud you for considering that L-form bacteria could be making your patients ill.

Have you read about the Marshall Protocol?  It&#039;s the study/treatment described often on this site that was also created about six years ago to target L-from bacteria.  I&#039;m not trying to market it to you since it&#039;s run by a non-profit agency and the guidelines and services are all completely free.  I just feel that you might be interested in learning more about it since obviously you care deeply about your patients&#039; health and are interested in L-forms.

The following video describes the treatment and the science that forms its backbone in simple terms:

http://bacteriality.com/2008/05/07/mpintro/

Here&#039;s a quick summary of the MP:

http://bacteriality.com/about-the-mp/

Here&#039;s a link to Dr. Marshall&#039;s (head of the Foundation) published papers and conference speeches:

http://mpkb.org/doku.php/home:publications

Thanks for writing,

Amy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dr. Quell,</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing.  I personally have never heard of using the zapper to treat any inflammatory condition.  Also, when you blend of oils, do they contain any omega 3?  If so, they contain vitamin D and could simply be suppressing the innate immune response against L-form bacteria.  My major question about the way you treat your patients is &#8211; do they experience a powerful bacterial die-off reaction when administered the zapper and oils?  Since it is now known that L-form bacteria cannot be killed without generating an inflammatory response that leads to temporary rises in disease symptoms, do your patients deal with such symptom exacerbation?</p>
<p>If not, I feel you may not be targeting L-forms completely.  I&#8217;m just trying to be honest here, I don&#8217;t mean to insult your work.  On the contrary, I applaud you for considering that L-form bacteria could be making your patients ill.</p>
<p>Have you read about the Marshall Protocol?  It&#8217;s the study/treatment described often on this site that was also created about six years ago to target L-from bacteria.  I&#8217;m not trying to market it to you since it&#8217;s run by a non-profit agency and the guidelines and services are all completely free.  I just feel that you might be interested in learning more about it since obviously you care deeply about your patients&#8217; health and are interested in L-forms.</p>
<p>The following video describes the treatment and the science that forms its backbone in simple terms:</p>
<p><a href="http://bacteriality.com/2008/05/07/mpintro/" rel="nofollow">http://bacteriality.com/2008/05/07/mpintro/</a></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a quick summary of the MP:</p>
<p><a href="http://bacteriality.com/about-the-mp/" rel="nofollow">http://bacteriality.com/about-the-mp/</a></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a link to Dr. Marshall&#8217;s (head of the Foundation) published papers and conference speeches:</p>
<p><a href="http://mpkb.org/doku.php/home:publications" rel="nofollow">http://mpkb.org/doku.php/home:publications</a></p>
<p>Thanks for writing,</p>
<p>Amy</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Lawrence Quell,D.C.</title>
		<link>http://bacteriality.com/2007/08/18/history/comment-page-1/#comment-16025</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Lawrence Quell,D.C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 19:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since last May (2008) I have been treating these L-forms electrically according to Hilda Clark from her book, &quot;One Cure for all Diseases&quot;.  I put patients on the &quot;Zapper&quot;---for lack of a better term, one time evdry two weeks.  In the interim I send My patients home with an essential oil blend that stops the function of these bacteria by interupting their reproductive cycle.
We then re-test in two weeks, &quot;zapp&quot; and adjust the number of drops of the oil necessary to continue the healing process.  Patient results have been excellent, more energy, mental clarity, better stamina.  The list goes on and on.
Dr. Quell</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since last May (2008) I have been treating these L-forms electrically according to Hilda Clark from her book, &#8220;One Cure for all Diseases&#8221;.  I put patients on the &#8220;Zapper&#8221;&#8212;for lack of a better term, one time evdry two weeks.  In the interim I send My patients home with an essential oil blend that stops the function of these bacteria by interupting their reproductive cycle.<br />
We then re-test in two weeks, &#8220;zapp&#8221; and adjust the number of drops of the oil necessary to continue the healing process.  Patient results have been excellent, more energy, mental clarity, better stamina.  The list goes on and on.<br />
Dr. Quell</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Proal</title>
		<link>http://bacteriality.com/2007/08/18/history/comment-page-1/#comment-15987</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy Proal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 00:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Zac,

I&#039;m glad you are interested in learning more about L-form bacteria.  I have forwarded your questions to Dr. Domingue as his answer should be more complete than mine.  I&#039;ll email you if he gets back to me.  

Take care,

Amy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Zac,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you are interested in learning more about L-form bacteria.  I have forwarded your questions to Dr. Domingue as his answer should be more complete than mine.  I&#8217;ll email you if he gets back to me.  </p>
<p>Take care,</p>
<p>Amy</p>
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		<title>By: zaclem01</title>
		<link>http://bacteriality.com/2007/08/18/history/comment-page-1/#comment-15979</link>
		<dc:creator>zaclem01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 02:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,

First of all, I would like to applaud Amy on this article. It is very insightful. Secondly, I have a question for Amy or Gerald. I am only a sophmore working on a Bioengineering degree so I apologize if the question is completely stupid. Do these L-form bacteria retain the protein receptors or other various surface proteins that they have on the extracellular side of the plasma membrane that they have in their &quot;normal&quot; form? If so, what type of molecules bind to these sites? Thanks for your help!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>First of all, I would like to applaud Amy on this article. It is very insightful. Secondly, I have a question for Amy or Gerald. I am only a sophmore working on a Bioengineering degree so I apologize if the question is completely stupid. Do these L-form bacteria retain the protein receptors or other various surface proteins that they have on the extracellular side of the plasma membrane that they have in their &#8220;normal&#8221; form? If so, what type of molecules bind to these sites? Thanks for your help!</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Proal</title>
		<link>http://bacteriality.com/2007/08/18/history/comment-page-1/#comment-15109</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy Proal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Syed,

Glad to be of help and glad you are writing about L-forms!

Best,

Amy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Syed,</p>
<p>Glad to be of help and glad you are writing about L-forms!</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Amy</p>
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		<title>By: syed hafiz</title>
		<link>http://bacteriality.com/2007/08/18/history/comment-page-1/#comment-15108</link>
		<dc:creator>syed hafiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is very useful for my final exam.Thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is very useful for my final exam.Thank you</p>
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		<title>By: Vics</title>
		<link>http://bacteriality.com/2007/08/18/history/comment-page-1/#comment-5053</link>
		<dc:creator>Vics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 06:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this leads to a blood test for me/cfs then I&#039;m all for it! So nice to read something medical that a lay person can understand for a change! kudos on the site, it&#039;s a marvel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this leads to a blood test for me/cfs then I&#8217;m all for it! So nice to read something medical that a lay person can understand for a change! kudos on the site, it&#8217;s a marvel.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Proal</title>
		<link>http://bacteriality.com/2007/08/18/history/comment-page-1/#comment-1738</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy Proal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 18:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi D Bergy,

I&#039;m glad you find this site to be informative and thanks for your nice comments about my work!

The MP is the only treatment that effectively kills L-form bacteria, so the only way people with MS could target Borrelia L-forms would be through the MP.  However since the MP kills different species of L-form bacteria simultaneously, it would be impossible to do a study in which only Borrelia L-forms were being killed.

Unfortunately high dose and IV antibiotics do not effectively kill L-form bacteria, because as described in this article, at such high doses, they negatively affect the immune system:

&quot;Getting it Right: How to correctly target L-form bacteria&quot;

http://bacteriality.com/2007/10/11/antibiotics/

The good news is that there are an increasing number of MS patients on the MP who appear to be recovering in the same fashion as people with other Th1 diseases.  They are definitely experiencing immunopathology - a clear indication that L-form bacteria are being targeted.

Best,

Amy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi D Bergy,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you find this site to be informative and thanks for your nice comments about my work!</p>
<p>The MP is the only treatment that effectively kills L-form bacteria, so the only way people with MS could target Borrelia L-forms would be through the MP.  However since the MP kills different species of L-form bacteria simultaneously, it would be impossible to do a study in which only Borrelia L-forms were being killed.</p>
<p>Unfortunately high dose and IV antibiotics do not effectively kill L-form bacteria, because as described in this article, at such high doses, they negatively affect the immune system:</p>
<p>&#8220;Getting it Right: How to correctly target L-form bacteria&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://bacteriality.com/2007/10/11/antibiotics/" rel="nofollow">http://bacteriality.com/2007/10/11/antibiotics/</a></p>
<p>The good news is that there are an increasing number of MS patients on the MP who appear to be recovering in the same fashion as people with other Th1 diseases.  They are definitely experiencing immunopathology &#8211; a clear indication that L-form bacteria are being targeted.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Amy</p>
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		<title>By: D Bergy</title>
		<link>http://bacteriality.com/2007/08/18/history/comment-page-1/#comment-1733</link>
		<dc:creator>D Bergy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 04:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;She cultured serum from forty patients with multiple sclerosis and found a different species of the borrelia L-form present in her samples.&quot;

I guess my question is:  Has anyone tried to treat this strain of borrelia in an actual MS patient to see if it has any effect on their condition?

This is the best bacterial site I have seen on the net.  I applaud your effert and really appreciate the work you have done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;She cultured serum from forty patients with multiple sclerosis and found a different species of the borrelia L-form present in her samples.&#8221;</p>
<p>I guess my question is:  Has anyone tried to treat this strain of borrelia in an actual MS patient to see if it has any effect on their condition?</p>
<p>This is the best bacterial site I have seen on the net.  I applaud your effert and really appreciate the work you have done.</p>
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