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		<title>By: Paul Albert</title>
		<link>http://bacteriality.com/2007/09/01/interview2/comment-page-1/#comment-17246</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Albert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 13:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Rab,

Thanks for writing.

Yours is a common complaint. I know a number of patients who have begun the Marshall Protocol after a long line of doctors told them they were depressed. Certainly not all doctors are this way. A number of physicians are willing to fully admit that their ability to diagnose and treat idiopathic disease (disease with an obscure or unknown cause) is limited. Your doctor may be &quot;unwilling to help you,&quot; because he or she is unable to help you – at least with the conventional therapy.

If you looking for Amy&#039;s and my opinion on the matter, we think you&#039;re on the right track when you refer to the high viral titers. However, there is reason to believe that your viral load is a downstream side effect of a dysregulated innate immune response. What we have seen is that you have to experience &lt;a href=&quot;http://mpkb.org/doku.php/home:medications:immunopathology&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;immunopathology&lt;/a&gt; and your measures of viral activity come down of their own accord. The MP is all about addressing root causes.

Would a doctor prescribe the MP for you even if he or she didn&#039;t believe that what you had was an illness of the mind? Well, it worked for &lt;a href=&quot;http://bacteriality.com/2007/11/10/interview10/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my symptoms of depression&lt;/a&gt;.

If you&#039;re looking for a new physician or even for tips on how to talk to your existing physician, have a look at the Knowledge Base article &lt;a href=&quot;http://mpkb.org/doku.php/home:starting:physician:finding&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Finding a physician&lt;/a&gt;.

Best,
Paul</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rab,</p>
<p>Thanks for writing.</p>
<p>Yours is a common complaint. I know a number of patients who have begun the Marshall Protocol after a long line of doctors told them they were depressed. Certainly not all doctors are this way. A number of physicians are willing to fully admit that their ability to diagnose and treat idiopathic disease (disease with an obscure or unknown cause) is limited. Your doctor may be &#8220;unwilling to help you,&#8221; because he or she is unable to help you – at least with the conventional therapy.</p>
<p>If you looking for Amy&#8217;s and my opinion on the matter, we think you&#8217;re on the right track when you refer to the high viral titers. However, there is reason to believe that your viral load is a downstream side effect of a dysregulated innate immune response. What we have seen is that you have to experience <a href="http://mpkb.org/doku.php/home:medications:immunopathology" rel="nofollow">immunopathology</a> and your measures of viral activity come down of their own accord. The MP is all about addressing root causes.</p>
<p>Would a doctor prescribe the MP for you even if he or she didn&#8217;t believe that what you had was an illness of the mind? Well, it worked for <a href="http://bacteriality.com/2007/11/10/interview10/" rel="nofollow">my symptoms of depression</a>.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re looking for a new physician or even for tips on how to talk to your existing physician, have a look at the Knowledge Base article <a href="http://mpkb.org/doku.php/home:starting:physician:finding" rel="nofollow">Finding a physician</a>.</p>
<p>Best,<br />
Paul</p>
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		<title>By: Rab</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 00:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have not been told by the doctors i have cfs but i know i have it due to being of ill health ie:-no energy sore muscles and bones aches and pains and shortness of breath etc,etc 

 Everytime i challenge the doctor(s) they say it is depression.... I try saying i am only depressed because you won&#039;t help me fight the real problem, a viral problem that causes my body pain and great weekness, (I used to have so much energy and life)

Could i go on the MP course without being told by the doctor i don&#039;t have this, I know i have.


I ADMIRE ALL WHO HELP OTHERS GET BETTER, WELL DONE.

Rab</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not been told by the doctors i have cfs but i know i have it due to being of ill health ie:-no energy sore muscles and bones aches and pains and shortness of breath etc,etc </p>
<p> Everytime i challenge the doctor(s) they say it is depression&#8230;. I try saying i am only depressed because you won&#8217;t help me fight the real problem, a viral problem that causes my body pain and great weekness, (I used to have so much energy and life)</p>
<p>Could i go on the MP course without being told by the doctor i don&#8217;t have this, I know i have.</p>
<p>I ADMIRE ALL WHO HELP OTHERS GET BETTER, WELL DONE.</p>
<p>Rab</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Proal</title>
		<link>http://bacteriality.com/2007/09/01/interview2/comment-page-1/#comment-16254</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy Proal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 13:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Monisha,

Glad you are looking into the MP!  There are definitely many people on the treatment in Australia.  The best way for you to find out who their doctors might be or other doctors in Australia who practice the MP is to ask for a list of MP doctors in Australia at the following website:

www.curemyth1.org (Th1 refers to diseases caused by bacteria, hence the name).  The patient advocates on the site, who are volunteers, will give you the list free of charge.  You will quickly have to become a member of the site first.

Good luck!

Amy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Monisha,</p>
<p>Glad you are looking into the MP!  There are definitely many people on the treatment in Australia.  The best way for you to find out who their doctors might be or other doctors in Australia who practice the MP is to ask for a list of MP doctors in Australia at the following website:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.curemyth1.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.curemyth1.org</a> (Th1 refers to diseases caused by bacteria, hence the name).  The patient advocates on the site, who are volunteers, will give you the list free of charge.  You will quickly have to become a member of the site first.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
<p>Amy</p>
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		<title>By: Monisha Bhatia</title>
		<link>http://bacteriality.com/2007/09/01/interview2/comment-page-1/#comment-16250</link>
		<dc:creator>Monisha Bhatia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amy,

I read your articles with interest. I live in Australia and was wondering if you know of any doctors in Australia (Melbourne, in particular) who support the MP ?

Looking forward to your reply
Monisha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amy,</p>
<p>I read your articles with interest. I live in Australia and was wondering if you know of any doctors in Australia (Melbourne, in particular) who support the MP ?</p>
<p>Looking forward to your reply<br />
Monisha</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Proal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy Proal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 16:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Maria,

Yes, most patients on the Marshall Protocol find that Candida is no long an issue when they start the treatment and Benicar is the driving factor allowing their immune systems to keep the pathogenic yeast under control.  Once the MP is completed Candida are also eliminated.

As hopefully you&#039;ve read in other pieces on this site, Benicar activates the Vitamin D Receptor - a fundamental receptor of the body that controls the activity of the innate immune system (the branch of the immune system that rapidly targets pathogens such as Candida).

So by strengthening the immune response against Candida, the yeast forms have a much more difficult time surviving and are generally killed as people continue taking Benicar (of course they must be taking the standard MP dose of 4 pills a day).  A die-off reaction can often be expected when Candida die, as the immune system mounts a temporary inflammatory response to their death.

However, one would not want to use just Benicar to combat Candida.  The reason the Vitamin D Receptor is dysregulated and inactive in the first place in patients with chronic disease is because the intraphagocytic, biofilm-like bacteria that cause inflammatory diseases are able to create ligands that slow its activity.

So unless one commences the full Marshall Protocol, and begins using the subinhibitory antibiotics to target the bacteria that cause VDR dysfunction, Benicar will never be able to create as much effective immune stabilization as it would if the bacteria were also being eliminated.  I think one would reach a  point where the effects of bacteria blocking the VDR would begin to counteract the positive effects that Benicar offers in terms of immune activation.

So if you are dealing with chronic candida doing the Marshall Protocol in its entirety is a must.  If you have Candida it is almost certain that you harbor the pathogens that cause chronic disease as otherwise your immune system wouldn&#039;t be slowed to the point where Candida are able to proliferate.

Hope this helps!

Amy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Maria,</p>
<p>Yes, most patients on the Marshall Protocol find that Candida is no long an issue when they start the treatment and Benicar is the driving factor allowing their immune systems to keep the pathogenic yeast under control.  Once the MP is completed Candida are also eliminated.</p>
<p>As hopefully you&#8217;ve read in other pieces on this site, Benicar activates the Vitamin D Receptor &#8211; a fundamental receptor of the body that controls the activity of the innate immune system (the branch of the immune system that rapidly targets pathogens such as Candida).</p>
<p>So by strengthening the immune response against Candida, the yeast forms have a much more difficult time surviving and are generally killed as people continue taking Benicar (of course they must be taking the standard MP dose of 4 pills a day).  A die-off reaction can often be expected when Candida die, as the immune system mounts a temporary inflammatory response to their death.</p>
<p>However, one would not want to use just Benicar to combat Candida.  The reason the Vitamin D Receptor is dysregulated and inactive in the first place in patients with chronic disease is because the intraphagocytic, biofilm-like bacteria that cause inflammatory diseases are able to create ligands that slow its activity.</p>
<p>So unless one commences the full Marshall Protocol, and begins using the subinhibitory antibiotics to target the bacteria that cause VDR dysfunction, Benicar will never be able to create as much effective immune stabilization as it would if the bacteria were also being eliminated.  I think one would reach a  point where the effects of bacteria blocking the VDR would begin to counteract the positive effects that Benicar offers in terms of immune activation.</p>
<p>So if you are dealing with chronic candida doing the Marshall Protocol in its entirety is a must.  If you have Candida it is almost certain that you harbor the pathogens that cause chronic disease as otherwise your immune system wouldn&#8217;t be slowed to the point where Candida are able to proliferate.</p>
<p>Hope this helps!</p>
<p>Amy</p>
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		<title>By: mar</title>
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		<dc:creator>mar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can benicar get rid of candida? I would appreciate your responde.
Maria</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can benicar get rid of candida? I would appreciate your responde.<br />
Maria</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Proal</title>
		<link>http://bacteriality.com/2007/09/01/interview2/comment-page-1/#comment-1222</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy Proal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 22:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Pam,

From what I&#039;ve learned from other patients on this site, getting diagnosed with sarcoidosis can be very confusing.  Most doctors, obvious to its bacterial cause, do not realize what a severe illness it is and the fact that it definitely never goes away on its own.  You did the best under the circumstances during the time before learning about the Marshall Protocol.  After all, due to the misunderstanding of vitamin D&#039;s actions held my mainstream medicine you had little reason to think getting sun/light was a bad idea.

I did the same thing before learning about the MP.  My family lives in Mexico City and I stayed with them when I was sick.  Every day for two years while I was nearly bedridden with CFS I laid out in the bright sun for hours until my tan was so deep that some people hardly recognized me.  Not to mention the history of tanning beds and sun I got prior to that time.

Despite all that (and I was also taking huge amounts of vitamin D supplements too!)  I have been able to reverse the course of my disease on the MP and continue to improve and improve.  I know I will get well and that while maybe all my light exposure made me sicker, it is still possible to get better.  I know you will too.

I hope your doctor agrees to put you on the treatment.  If he doesn&#039;t find another doctor.  Starting the MP so important that I would take every measure possible to find a doctor willing to work with you.  If your current doctor has issues about the treatment urge him to call Dr. Marshall (his phone number is in the phase 1 guidelines).  Speaking with him might help.  If he still won&#039;t put you on the treatment you can request a list of other doctors in your area from the MP website.  I&#039;m sure between these possibilities that something will work out.

Yes, L-form bacteria and the genetic mutations these cause are passed from generation to generation.  Your son&#039;s dsylexia is definitely a result of bacterial infection and it is likely that the other son picked up some bacteria as well.  I strongly think they should do the Marshall Protocol, although there is no huge rush - you may want to contact other parents with children on the MP to see how they manage school and activities with children on the MP.  Because they are not very symptomatic at the moment they may be able to be on the treatment and still attend school etc.  

You are on the right track and doing exactly what you need to be doing by reading a lot about the treatment.  Don&#039;t forget that if you have any questions or concerns you can also post them on the following website:

www.curemyth1.org (Th1 refers to diseases caused by L-form bacteria, hence the name Cure My Th1).  The patient advocates on that site will answer your questions free of charge and they are very knowledgeable.

Good luck!

Amy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Pam,</p>
<p>From what I&#8217;ve learned from other patients on this site, getting diagnosed with sarcoidosis can be very confusing.  Most doctors, obvious to its bacterial cause, do not realize what a severe illness it is and the fact that it definitely never goes away on its own.  You did the best under the circumstances during the time before learning about the Marshall Protocol.  After all, due to the misunderstanding of vitamin D&#8217;s actions held my mainstream medicine you had little reason to think getting sun/light was a bad idea.</p>
<p>I did the same thing before learning about the MP.  My family lives in Mexico City and I stayed with them when I was sick.  Every day for two years while I was nearly bedridden with CFS I laid out in the bright sun for hours until my tan was so deep that some people hardly recognized me.  Not to mention the history of tanning beds and sun I got prior to that time.</p>
<p>Despite all that (and I was also taking huge amounts of vitamin D supplements too!)  I have been able to reverse the course of my disease on the MP and continue to improve and improve.  I know I will get well and that while maybe all my light exposure made me sicker, it is still possible to get better.  I know you will too.</p>
<p>I hope your doctor agrees to put you on the treatment.  If he doesn&#8217;t find another doctor.  Starting the MP so important that I would take every measure possible to find a doctor willing to work with you.  If your current doctor has issues about the treatment urge him to call Dr. Marshall (his phone number is in the phase 1 guidelines).  Speaking with him might help.  If he still won&#8217;t put you on the treatment you can request a list of other doctors in your area from the MP website.  I&#8217;m sure between these possibilities that something will work out.</p>
<p>Yes, L-form bacteria and the genetic mutations these cause are passed from generation to generation.  Your son&#8217;s dsylexia is definitely a result of bacterial infection and it is likely that the other son picked up some bacteria as well.  I strongly think they should do the Marshall Protocol, although there is no huge rush &#8211; you may want to contact other parents with children on the MP to see how they manage school and activities with children on the MP.  Because they are not very symptomatic at the moment they may be able to be on the treatment and still attend school etc.  </p>
<p>You are on the right track and doing exactly what you need to be doing by reading a lot about the treatment.  Don&#8217;t forget that if you have any questions or concerns you can also post them on the following website:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.curemyth1.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.curemyth1.org</a> (Th1 refers to diseases caused by L-form bacteria, hence the name Cure My Th1).  The patient advocates on that site will answer your questions free of charge and they are very knowledgeable.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
<p>Amy</p>
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		<title>By: Pam Fridgen</title>
		<link>http://bacteriality.com/2007/09/01/interview2/comment-page-1/#comment-1215</link>
		<dc:creator>Pam Fridgen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 17:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Amy,
               I was first diagnosed with sarcoidosis
about 25 years ago when I had a swollen lymph
node biopsied. Until about a year ago I had no other
symptoms. Then some bumps appeared on my face.
I discussed having them removed with my doctor.
He decided to biopsy one before sending me to a
plastic surgeon. We were both surprised when the
results came back. He had never heard of it and I
never expected to hear about it again because I
had been told it often went away on it&#039;s own. He
sent me to a local hospital&#039;s chest clinic. They tested my lung capacity and at that time it was
within the normal range. She thought I ought to
have an inhaler anyway which I turned down. In
the last year I have developed signifigant shortness
of breath. Before I found out about the Marshall
protocol I was doing everything I thought was good
for me: walking alot out in the bright sun, taking lots
of supplements including Vit. D drops , taking my
glasses off outside so my eyes could get full spectrum light etc. I was floored when I read about
the Marshall protocol. I have asked my doctor to
check it out and let me know if he is willing to support me doing the protocl. I haven&#039;t heard back
in two weeks. I&#039;m so anxious. This morning I read
about Ival Meyer&#039;s experience with dyslexia and it
reminds me of the genetic predisposition for the
L form bacteria. I have a son who has been diagnosed with dislexia and I&#039;m wondering if there
is a connection.  Are you finding this to be passed
on alot? Should I have both of my sons tested?
Thank you so much for your web site and all your
work on this.
                                 Pam Fridgen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Amy,<br />
               I was first diagnosed with sarcoidosis<br />
about 25 years ago when I had a swollen lymph<br />
node biopsied. Until about a year ago I had no other<br />
symptoms. Then some bumps appeared on my face.<br />
I discussed having them removed with my doctor.<br />
He decided to biopsy one before sending me to a<br />
plastic surgeon. We were both surprised when the<br />
results came back. He had never heard of it and I<br />
never expected to hear about it again because I<br />
had been told it often went away on it&#8217;s own. He<br />
sent me to a local hospital&#8217;s chest clinic. They tested my lung capacity and at that time it was<br />
within the normal range. She thought I ought to<br />
have an inhaler anyway which I turned down. In<br />
the last year I have developed signifigant shortness<br />
of breath. Before I found out about the Marshall<br />
protocol I was doing everything I thought was good<br />
for me: walking alot out in the bright sun, taking lots<br />
of supplements including Vit. D drops , taking my<br />
glasses off outside so my eyes could get full spectrum light etc. I was floored when I read about<br />
the Marshall protocol. I have asked my doctor to<br />
check it out and let me know if he is willing to support me doing the protocl. I haven&#8217;t heard back<br />
in two weeks. I&#8217;m so anxious. This morning I read<br />
about Ival Meyer&#8217;s experience with dyslexia and it<br />
reminds me of the genetic predisposition for the<br />
L form bacteria. I have a son who has been diagnosed with dislexia and I&#8217;m wondering if there<br />
is a connection.  Are you finding this to be passed<br />
on alot? Should I have both of my sons tested?<br />
Thank you so much for your web site and all your<br />
work on this.<br />
                                 Pam Fridgen</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Devereaux</title>
		<link>http://bacteriality.com/2007/09/01/interview2/comment-page-1/#comment-40</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Devereaux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amy, 

Thank you so much for all of the effort that you have put into &quot;Bacteriality.&quot; I am trained in science with degrees in microbiology and clinical pharmacy. I remember studying &quot;plasmid mediated bacterial resistance to antibiotics&quot; in the lab back in the late 70&#039;s. It&#039;s hard to believe that that science is finally just beginning to impact medicine. If only the IDSA would get on board ! I have been very sick with chronic Lyme since 1995, the year that I came down with mononucleosis. I have been out of work since July 2006 doing the MP (and suffering big time!) I am , in the last few months, beginning to see some progress. I know that I have a long way to go, but reading your publication has been a huge inspiration to me. Keep up the great work ! I hope to be contributing to the effort in the near future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amy, </p>
<p>Thank you so much for all of the effort that you have put into &#8220;Bacteriality.&#8221; I am trained in science with degrees in microbiology and clinical pharmacy. I remember studying &#8220;plasmid mediated bacterial resistance to antibiotics&#8221; in the lab back in the late 70&#8217;s. It&#8217;s hard to believe that that science is finally just beginning to impact medicine. If only the IDSA would get on board ! I have been very sick with chronic Lyme since 1995, the year that I came down with mononucleosis. I have been out of work since July 2006 doing the MP (and suffering big time!) I am , in the last few months, beginning to see some progress. I know that I have a long way to go, but reading your publication has been a huge inspiration to me. Keep up the great work ! I hope to be contributing to the effort in the near future.</p>
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