Glad you enjoy the material on this site. Yours is a good question. My answer is that I don’t really know! However I can speculate on how the factors you describe may affect the chronic disease process that’s driven by L-form and other bacterial types.

I’m sure you know that in the winter, if you don’t sleep enough, wear yourself out, or are somehow exposed to something toxic, your immune system may become weakened and you would be more likely to pick up the pathogens that cause the flu.

In the same sense, I think that pollution and smoking in particular might wear down the body to a certain extend. There may be bacteria in some forms of pollution that could distract the immune system from going after L-form bacteria and other forms behind chronic disease. So I think that pollution etc. was simply weaken the immune response in certain ways, making it easier for people to pick up the Th1 pathogens, or causing the Th1 pathogens they already have to spread more easily.

Also, I sometimes feels that doctors are a bit too quick to blame pollution, diet, smoking etc for cancer. Since most are unaware that pathogens are driving the disease process, they need other “scapegoats” to blame the disease on. Yes, there are studies showing that smoking etc. contributes to cancer risk but in some cases the results have limited statistical significance. Yet without any other explanation for cancer pathogenesis, doctors will often over-emphasize such results.

Best,

Amy

Best,
Dave L.

Very true and well said. I also believe that the possibility of better health and less suffering for all will eventually overcome the financial and political obstacles that often hinder change. Hence my desire to keep working with the MP staff in order to put out more published papers and my effort to educate as many patients as I can about the MP.

Thanks for your comment,

Amy

Luckily, our knowledge of the human microbiota is greatly changing. Now, thanks to advanced molecular techniques, every scientist is or will become aware of the fact that bacterial cells in the organism we call “humans” are outnumbered 10 to 1. Sadly the implications of this knowledge have come very late for those people who have suffered so greatly from “autoimmune” disease over the past decades.

I believe some scientists are definitely worried about embarrassment, but more than that, we’ve connected their very well-being to the accuracy of their work. There’s great motivation for scientists to cling tightly to old dogma because it’s related to the scientific topics that are bringing in their grant money. If they change their minds and try to explore a new topic they will very likely find themselves without any funds. Thus, the scientific community is structured in a way that makes change or straying from consensus very difficult. Of course, that only makes my job harder!

Take care,
Amy

I encourage you to look into the MP in great detail. If you have questions about the treatment you can post them at the following website:

http://www.curemyth1.org (Th1 refers to diseases caused by L-form bacteria, hence the name Cure My Th1). Your questions will be answered free of charge by patients advocates, some of them who used the MP to recover from Lyme.

I also encourage you to get on the MP study site (www.marshallprotocol.com) and look up other members with Lyme disease who have been on the treatment for a while. Email them about their experience with the MP or even ask if you can chat over the phone. Getting feedback straight from the patients themselves is a great way to learn more about the treatment.

I will be putting up another interview soon with a woman who had a bad case of Lyme and is doing very well now thanks to the MP. Be sure to check back in a few days to read that piece.

Best,

Amy

Thanks,

Cherie

I don’t know much about rife machines but from what I have been told they target few of the actual L-form bacteria causing these Th1 diseases. Dr. Marshall actually puts L-form bacteria into a larger category of persistent, stealth bacteria which he terms the “Th1 pathogens.” These bacteria, many of which are found in bioflims and communities we may not even understand at this point, very likely don’t even have a spirochete form for a rife machine to target. Also, there is question as to whether spirochetes are even common in the body as they are certainly produced in the lab, but may not be commonly formed in vivo. I have never heard of anyone truly recovering from Lyme using a rife machine probably for the above reasons. My guess is that the machines are better at targeting bacterial species that act as co-infections but not the Th1 pathogens themselves.

I know Brian Rosner wrote his book with the best of intentions, but it makes me sad to see such an intelligent person clump nine other treatments into his book that mentions the MP, none of which come close to having the scientific base that the MP does If he truly understood the MP then he would know that there is only one treatment for Lyme – the MP. Furthermore, he would know that adapting the MP, even with something like a Rife machine that seems to be helpful could have detrimental consequences that we don’t know about. One of the most important things about the MP is that it must be done exactly as stated, never combined with other therapies.

As Marshall has stated, “We have to remember that there are many species we are fighting against. Second, the immune system is so finely balanced between not killing them, and killing them, so that small changes to our lifestyle, or to our food, or caused by other drugs we are taking, might stop the immune system from killing the bacteria.”

On a separate note, the focus of the first study to sequence the genomes of individual cells would be done on a cohort of patients with fibromyalgia. That trial is still in the works as Marshall doesn’t have a lab yet, so I think doing the same thing with cancer would be far off. In terms of therapy, I believe the MP could go a long way in curbing or eliminating cancer. Yes, other factors may be involved but the presence of L-form bacteria is probably the driving factor, especially since it is now accepted by mainstream medicine that cancer is indeed an inflammatory disease. I think we may see that as people use the MP for more and more diseases other then cancer, cancer rates drop or even disappear completely.

I believe Markova is right. We should work on creating drugs that prevent the formation of L-form bacteria in the first place. Many times L-form bacteria are formed when classical bacteria are exposed to certain environmental factors – some we are unsure of, the beta-lactam antibiotics are certainly one of them. So at least whenever anyone gets an acute infection, they could be given a drug that would prevent the classical bacteria that have infected them from turning into the L-form.

Best,

Amy

Royal Rife (1888-1971) did research on treating cancer using electomagnetic radiation. It turns out that you can treat infections as well. The devices are called Rife Machines and were invented by Rife around 1930 and spontaneously rediscovered by other backyard scientists decades later.. As far as I am able to tell, Rife Machines do work on irregularly shaped micro organisms and show great effect in treating Lyme spirochetes under the microscope as well as irregular L-forms. They work by vibrating the organism or its organelles at resonante frequencies causing the to disassemble. There is a concern, though, that they are ineffective against spherical forms which do not resonate so well. Brian Rosner, in evaluating Rife machines, stated that Rife made him better but the MP took him over the top in treating his Lyme disease. He wrote two books, one is called the Top Ten Lyme Treatments.

Sorry for that digression, but my point is if the research can’t be done step by logical step then approach it from the treatment angle as Rife did. Unfortunately his lab and offices were mysteriously destroyed or raided by authorities and he fled to Mexico, his colleagues went to jail. One must be careful when working outside the box. Interesting reading, but I am sure you are busy enough as it is!

So, where is Dr. Marshall taking the genomic research. Its not hard to believe that bacterial DNA ends up in the human genome, but translating that to cancer sound like a giant leap to me. I don’t know much about carcinogenesis, so maybe the leap won’t be so far. Then you still have to create a therapy.Do you know what Marshall’s thinking is on this?

Speaking of therapies, I was intrigued by the Bulgarian scientist’s strategy of preventing morphogenesis to L forms from invasive forms as a therapy.. I can’t imagine that there will be a sequence of events that will apply to more than one species that could be targeted by a pharmaceutical. Genomics might help there.
Did she elaborate much on L-forms and cancer?

Amy, no need of a reply, just wanted you to know your work is so appreciated, informative and stimulating. God Bless you. Eric