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		<title>By: Amy Proal</title>
		<link>http://bacteriality.com/2007/11/13/eyes/comment-page-1/#comment-15509</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy Proal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sandy,

Like I told Shawn above, I don't think we can be sure what is going on. I just haven't looked into it enough to know either way, so I'm going to refrain from speculating, if you don't mind. 

If the MP sounds promising to you, I would find a general practitioner, rather than an eye doctor, who would put you on it. You can request a list of local MDs at &lt;a href="http://curemyth1.org" rel="nofollow"&gt;CureMyTh1.org&lt;/a&gt;.

Honestly, I can't say if your doctor would be particularly impressed to hear that your #1 rationale for doing the MP is those rod-shaped bacteria. If your goal is to get a doctor who will put you on the MP, I would probably draw from a list of more commonly accepted symptoms of Th1 disease.

Best,
Amy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sandy,</p>
<p>Like I told Shawn above, I don&#8217;t think we can be sure what is going on. I just haven&#8217;t looked into it enough to know either way, so I&#8217;m going to refrain from speculating, if you don&#8217;t mind. </p>
<p>If the MP sounds promising to you, I would find a general practitioner, rather than an eye doctor, who would put you on it. You can request a list of local MDs at <a href="http://curemyth1.org" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('a/curemyth1.org');" rel="nofollow">CureMyTh1.org</a>.</p>
<p>Honestly, I can&#8217;t say if your doctor would be particularly impressed to hear that your #1 rationale for doing the MP is those rod-shaped bacteria. If your goal is to get a doctor who will put you on the MP, I would probably draw from a list of more commonly accepted symptoms of Th1 disease.</p>
<p>Best,<br />
Amy</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy Autry</title>
		<link>http://bacteriality.com/2007/11/13/eyes/comment-page-1/#comment-15498</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandy Autry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 08:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Similar to two posts above, I have been seeing what appears to be fairly quick moving rod-shaped bacteria for well over a year, most noteably at night.  While I wasn't clear at first what I was seeing, I've now seen enough videos taken through microscopes to feel confident that this is what I am seeing.  While I know we are full of bacteria, this nightly vision is very disconcerting.  Do you think this is harmful to my eyes?  They do feel coated with "plasticy goo".  Should I see an eye doctor or a regular doctor familiar with MP?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Similar to two posts above, I have been seeing what appears to be fairly quick moving rod-shaped bacteria for well over a year, most noteably at night.  While I wasn&#8217;t clear at first what I was seeing, I&#8217;ve now seen enough videos taken through microscopes to feel confident that this is what I am seeing.  While I know we are full of bacteria, this nightly vision is very disconcerting.  Do you think this is harmful to my eyes?  They do feel coated with &#8220;plasticy goo&#8221;.  Should I see an eye doctor or a regular doctor familiar with MP?</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Proal</title>
		<link>http://bacteriality.com/2007/11/13/eyes/comment-page-1/#comment-15278</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy Proal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 23:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Johan,

Forgive me if I am just a wee bit dubious. The fact that Dr. Jernigan owns a company, which sells his formula, is not exactly a mark in his favor.

I had a quick look at the website and scanned a description of the formula. For the product in question, it says that it "matches and enhances the body�s own energy." Sorry, but that doesn't very science-y to me.

Indeed, at the bottom of the webpage, it says in smaller writing, "This product is not intended to treat, diagnose, or address disease."

I don't want to sound obnoxious, but there just isn't that much good science supporting the use of nutraceuticals or herbs. Or at least I haven't seen it.

Best,
Amy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Johan,</p>
<p>Forgive me if I am just a wee bit dubious. The fact that Dr. Jernigan owns a company, which sells his formula, is not exactly a mark in his favor.</p>
<p>I had a quick look at the website and scanned a description of the formula. For the product in question, it says that it &#8220;matches and enhances the body�s own energy.&#8221; Sorry, but that doesn&#8217;t very science-y to me.</p>
<p>Indeed, at the bottom of the webpage, it says in smaller writing, &#8220;This product is not intended to treat, diagnose, or address disease.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to sound obnoxious, but there just isn&#8217;t that much good science supporting the use of nutraceuticals or herbs. Or at least I haven&#8217;t seen it.</p>
<p>Best,<br />
Amy</p>
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		<title>By: Johan</title>
		<link>http://bacteriality.com/2007/11/13/eyes/comment-page-1/#comment-15258</link>
		<dc:creator>Johan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a physician who uses natural herbal-homeopathic formulas to treat mycoplasma and other infections. He had lyme disease himself and I believe, successfully treated his own disease. His name is David A. Jernigan, Ph.D. and he is the owner of Jernigan Nutraceuticals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a physician who uses natural herbal-homeopathic formulas to treat mycoplasma and other infections. He had lyme disease himself and I believe, successfully treated his own disease. His name is David A. Jernigan, Ph.D. and he is the owner of Jernigan Nutraceuticals.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Proal</title>
		<link>http://bacteriality.com/2007/11/13/eyes/comment-page-1/#comment-15050</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy Proal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 16:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Judy,

No, unfortunately there are no "natural" substances that can substitute for any of the MP medications.  

I would not worry very much about the MP medications.  Benicar has an excellent safety profile.  You can read more about it here:

http://bacteriality.com/2008/02/23/misconceptions/#2

The antibiotics are taken in extremely low doses so that the amounts your take are very low.  For example, in Phase II of the treatment patients take a half a pill of one antibiotic only every ten days.  

Also, the MP medications have been modeled at the molecular level so that we know exactly what they do in the body - what receptors they bind etc.

In my opinion, it is far more dangerous to take the natural substances you suggest.  Although they have not been created by a drug company, there is no molecular evidence about exactly what they would do in the body if you take them.  They could cause unintended side effects and there would be no way of knowing.  This article describes why one definitely does not want to alter the MP or use alternative substances in any way:

http://bacteriality.com/2008/02/23/misconceptions/#9

So I very much recommend that you at least try the MP and consider taking the appropriate medicines.  It is certainly a better option than simply leaving your disease alone to progress to a possibly worse state.  

Best,

Amy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Judy,</p>
<p>No, unfortunately there are no &#8220;natural&#8221; substances that can substitute for any of the MP medications.  </p>
<p>I would not worry very much about the MP medications.  Benicar has an excellent safety profile.  You can read more about it here:</p>
<p><a href="http://bacteriality.com/2008/02/23/misconceptions/#2"  rel="nofollow">http://bacteriality.com/2008/02/23/misconceptions/#2</a></p>
<p>The antibiotics are taken in extremely low doses so that the amounts your take are very low.  For example, in Phase II of the treatment patients take a half a pill of one antibiotic only every ten days.  </p>
<p>Also, the MP medications have been modeled at the molecular level so that we know exactly what they do in the body - what receptors they bind etc.</p>
<p>In my opinion, it is far more dangerous to take the natural substances you suggest.  Although they have not been created by a drug company, there is no molecular evidence about exactly what they would do in the body if you take them.  They could cause unintended side effects and there would be no way of knowing.  This article describes why one definitely does not want to alter the MP or use alternative substances in any way:</p>
<p><a href="http://bacteriality.com/2008/02/23/misconceptions/#9"  rel="nofollow">http://bacteriality.com/2008/02/23/misconceptions/#9</a></p>
<p>So I very much recommend that you at least try the MP and consider taking the appropriate medicines.  It is certainly a better option than simply leaving your disease alone to progress to a possibly worse state.  </p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Amy</p>
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		<title>By: Judy Kottmann</title>
		<link>http://bacteriality.com/2007/11/13/eyes/comment-page-1/#comment-15026</link>
		<dc:creator>Judy Kottmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 17:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amy,

I was wondering if there have been any trials with Benicar and then using things like colloidal  silver, oregano oil, grapeseed oil or mms instead of the antibiotics. I have rheumatoid arthritis and have tried numerous remedy's with some relief and progress but not total healing. 

I did not go on the program my doctor recommended of all of the medications they offered because no one that was taking them could tell me of any real improvement as it was masked with pain killers and all within a few years were waiting for knee or hip replacements. It is down from every joint in my body to just six but it is seems to be in tendons and muscles as well at times,  but they are vital points and at times I am out of commission with pain or just not functioning. I have always been hesitant to take prescriptions of any kind. Is there a possiblity of trying those combo's of Benicar and alternative antibiotics? Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amy,</p>
<p>I was wondering if there have been any trials with Benicar and then using things like colloidal  silver, oregano oil, grapeseed oil or mms instead of the antibiotics. I have rheumatoid arthritis and have tried numerous remedy&#8217;s with some relief and progress but not total healing. </p>
<p>I did not go on the program my doctor recommended of all of the medications they offered because no one that was taking them could tell me of any real improvement as it was masked with pain killers and all within a few years were waiting for knee or hip replacements. It is down from every joint in my body to just six but it is seems to be in tendons and muscles as well at times,  but they are vital points and at times I am out of commission with pain or just not functioning. I have always been hesitant to take prescriptions of any kind. Is there a possiblity of trying those combo&#8217;s of Benicar and alternative antibiotics? Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn Regan</title>
		<link>http://bacteriality.com/2007/11/13/eyes/comment-page-1/#comment-14548</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn Regan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 00:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amy see this link:

http://www.ahealthadvantage.com/library/weekly/aa011501a.htm

I had originally read an Article in SCI-AM or Discover about this. It's not too far fetched that we might see spirochetes. Mine look like pieces of thread that are a little curled and overlapping.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amy see this link:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ahealthadvantage.com/library/weekly/aa011501a.htm" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('a/www.ahealthadvantage.com');" rel="nofollow">http://www.ahealthadvantage.com/library/weekly/aa011501a.htm</a></p>
<p>I had originally read an Article in SCI-AM or Discover about this. It&#8217;s not too far fetched that we might see spirochetes. Mine look like pieces of thread that are a little curled and overlapping.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Proal</title>
		<link>http://bacteriality.com/2007/11/13/eyes/comment-page-1/#comment-14142</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy Proal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 23:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Shawn,

First off thanks for you kind comments about Bacteriality.  I'm glad you find the articles interesting!

As for your eyes...a very interesting scenario.  I really don't know if what you are seeing are bacteria in your eyes, although I have no reason to dismiss the possibility.

Whether or not you can see bacteria in your ocular fluid I am still quite confident that their presence is causing your deteriorating vision.  I had very bad eye inflammation and vision problems that have improved tremendously with the MP.  As discussed in the article, many others are experiencing improvement as well.  It couldn't hurt to give the MP a try if you can find a supportive doctor.  

If you do the MP and you no longer see the spirochete type filaments in your eyes then you'll finally know whether or not they were related to bacterial infection!

Best,

Amy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Shawn,</p>
<p>First off thanks for you kind comments about Bacteriality.  I&#8217;m glad you find the articles interesting!</p>
<p>As for your eyes&#8230;a very interesting scenario.  I really don&#8217;t know if what you are seeing are bacteria in your eyes, although I have no reason to dismiss the possibility.</p>
<p>Whether or not you can see bacteria in your ocular fluid I am still quite confident that their presence is causing your deteriorating vision.  I had very bad eye inflammation and vision problems that have improved tremendously with the MP.  As discussed in the article, many others are experiencing improvement as well.  It couldn&#8217;t hurt to give the MP a try if you can find a supportive doctor.  </p>
<p>If you do the MP and you no longer see the spirochete type filaments in your eyes then you&#8217;ll finally know whether or not they were related to bacterial infection!</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Amy</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn Regan</title>
		<link>http://bacteriality.com/2007/11/13/eyes/comment-page-1/#comment-14069</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn Regan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 19:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amy,

First let me say thank you for all you do. You are building a mountain of good Karma in this lifetime.

I suspect I have lyme and my vision within the last 6 months has deteriorated that I am now slightly farsighted. I need magnifiers (I'm 45) to read something about 1-2 feet in front of me.

Strange thing is that when I look at the sky or a bright white LCD computer screen I can see spirochette type filaments. I had read an article years ago I think in SCI-AM that mentioned looking at the sky and counting white blood cells as they flit across the surface of the eye. Somehow very minute objects can be seen much like a drop of water can act as a magnifying glass.

Anyway I have them in both eyes. Do you think these can be the pathogens themselves in the occular fluid?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amy,</p>
<p>First let me say thank you for all you do. You are building a mountain of good Karma in this lifetime.</p>
<p>I suspect I have lyme and my vision within the last 6 months has deteriorated that I am now slightly farsighted. I need magnifiers (I&#8217;m 45) to read something about 1-2 feet in front of me.</p>
<p>Strange thing is that when I look at the sky or a bright white LCD computer screen I can see spirochette type filaments. I had read an article years ago I think in SCI-AM that mentioned looking at the sky and counting white blood cells as they flit across the surface of the eye. Somehow very minute objects can be seen much like a drop of water can act as a magnifying glass.</p>
<p>Anyway I have them in both eyes. Do you think these can be the pathogens themselves in the occular fluid?</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Proal</title>
		<link>http://bacteriality.com/2007/11/13/eyes/comment-page-1/#comment-11830</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy Proal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jonathan,

I'm glad you found this site because the Marshall Protocol (MP) can absolutely allow your eyes to recover from their various inflammatory conditions.

There is little doubt, especially with one considers your infectious history, that your eyes are infected with the chronic bacteria that cause swelling, uveitis, and cataract formation.  The MP effectively targets these chronic forms meaning that you can kill them and will no longer have to try to palliate your symptoms with steroids.

The MP study is temporarily closed due to high demand but you can still do the treatment with the help of your doctor. Even members of the study must work with their own doctors who prescribe the necessary MP meds - Benicar and various pulsed, low-dose antibiotics.  So you will need to find a doctor who is willing to put you on the treatment.  There are materials to present to physicians about the MP on the study site itself.  For example, here is a booklet of information about the MP that you can show your doctor:

http://www.ginariggio.com/MP/phase1guide.html

If your doctor wants to see a list of Dr. Marshall's published papers and recent presentation transcripts they can be found here:

www.trevormarshall.com

Show your doctor the phase 1 MP guidelines which describe how to begin the treatment:

http://AutoimmunityResearch.org/phase1.pdf

Then, if your doctor becomes a member of the "Private Section for Medical Professionals" on the study site he/she can then access the phase II/III guidelines when necessary.

If you can't convince your current doctor or any other open-minded doctors in your area to put you on the MP then post about your situation at the following website:

www.curemyth1.org (Th1 refers to diseases caused by bacteria).  The patient advocates on the site, who answer questions about the MP free of charge, may be able to help you find a doctor in your area.

You should also write a post on the same site asking to fill out a form to become a member of the study.  While there is a waiting list right now, you may eventually be admitted.  If you are admitted you get the extra bonus of having the MP nurse moderators guide you through the MP during periods where you may not be in touch with your doctor.

So I recommend getting on the waiting list now and looking for a doctor who will agree to put you on the treatment.

Good luck!

Amy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jonathan,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you found this site because the Marshall Protocol (MP) can absolutely allow your eyes to recover from their various inflammatory conditions.</p>
<p>There is little doubt, especially with one considers your infectious history, that your eyes are infected with the chronic bacteria that cause swelling, uveitis, and cataract formation.  The MP effectively targets these chronic forms meaning that you can kill them and will no longer have to try to palliate your symptoms with steroids.</p>
<p>The MP study is temporarily closed due to high demand but you can still do the treatment with the help of your doctor. Even members of the study must work with their own doctors who prescribe the necessary MP meds - Benicar and various pulsed, low-dose antibiotics.  So you will need to find a doctor who is willing to put you on the treatment.  There are materials to present to physicians about the MP on the study site itself.  For example, here is a booklet of information about the MP that you can show your doctor:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ginariggio.com/MP/phase1guide.html" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('a/www.ginariggio.com');" rel="nofollow">http://www.ginariggio.com/MP/phase1guide.html</a></p>
<p>If your doctor wants to see a list of Dr. Marshall&#8217;s published papers and recent presentation transcripts they can be found here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.trevormarshall.com" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('a/www.trevormarshall.com');" rel="nofollow">http://www.trevormarshall.com</a></p>
<p>Show your doctor the phase 1 MP guidelines which describe how to begin the treatment:</p>
<p><a href="http://AutoimmunityResearch.org/phase1.pdf" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('a/AutoimmunityResearch.org');" rel="nofollow">http://AutoimmunityResearch.org/phase1.pdf</a></p>
<p>Then, if your doctor becomes a member of the &#8220;Private Section for Medical Professionals&#8221; on the study site he/she can then access the phase II/III guidelines when necessary.</p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t convince your current doctor or any other open-minded doctors in your area to put you on the MP then post about your situation at the following website:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.curemyth1.org" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('a/www.curemyth1.org');" rel="nofollow">http://www.curemyth1.org</a> (Th1 refers to diseases caused by bacteria).  The patient advocates on the site, who answer questions about the MP free of charge, may be able to help you find a doctor in your area.</p>
<p>You should also write a post on the same site asking to fill out a form to become a member of the study.  While there is a waiting list right now, you may eventually be admitted.  If you are admitted you get the extra bonus of having the MP nurse moderators guide you through the MP during periods where you may not be in touch with your doctor.</p>
<p>So I recommend getting on the waiting list now and looking for a doctor who will agree to put you on the treatment.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
<p>Amy</p>
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