Comments on: Why the Marshall Protocol makes sense http://bacteriality.com/2007/11/28/sense/ Thu, 03 Dec 2009 20:09:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Tanja http://bacteriality.com/2007/11/28/sense/comment-page-1/#comment-17937 Tanja Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:01:24 +0000 http://bacteriality.com/2007/11/28/sense/#comment-17937 My sister has gone to a therapy centre practicing "Peak states" therapy yesterday.I don't know anything about it,but they managed to convince her to go which no one managed yet for any other therapy!Thank God she agreed to something at least.We will soon see if this helps.. As far as vaccines go i did not vaccinate my daughter and she is the healthiest little kid who only ever had a bout of stomach bug that she cleared in 2 days and we struggled with for a week.She goes to daycare and has been around the world twice with us (she is 2 and half) and been around sick kids plenty.I don't know if the connection is there and what you say is true-circumstances are different for everyone i agree. I also wanted to ask you what your opinion is of parasites? Apparently parasites and bacteria work hand in hand and most of us are infected but don't know it.I've read that if we kill parasites than the bad bacteria die too as parasites' byproducts feed bacteria and create a welcoming environment.In the past apparently societies had various ways of doing parasite cleanses every year and that seems to have been forgotten in the new world.What is the current medical knowledge on parasites and are they ever suspected as culprits for diseases along with bacteria and tested for routinely? Thank you My sister has gone to a therapy centre practicing “Peak states” therapy yesterday.I don’t know anything about it,but they managed to convince her to go which no one managed yet for any other therapy!Thank God she agreed to something at least.We will soon see if this helps..
As far as vaccines go i did not vaccinate my daughter and she is the healthiest little kid who only ever had a bout of stomach bug that she cleared in 2 days and we struggled with for a week.She goes to daycare and has been around the world twice with us (she is 2 and half) and been around sick kids plenty.I don’t know if the connection is there and what you say is true-circumstances are different for everyone i agree.
I also wanted to ask you what your opinion is of parasites? Apparently parasites and bacteria work hand in hand and most of us are infected but don’t know it.I’ve read that if we kill parasites than the bad bacteria die too as parasites’ byproducts feed bacteria and create a welcoming environment.In the past apparently societies had various ways of doing parasite cleanses every year and that seems to have been forgotten in the new world.What is the current medical knowledge on parasites and are they ever suspected as culprits for diseases along with bacteria and tested for routinely?
Thank you

]]> By: Amy Proal http://bacteriality.com/2007/11/28/sense/comment-page-1/#comment-17933 Amy Proal Fri, 14 Aug 2009 15:03:25 +0000 http://bacteriality.com/2007/11/28/sense/#comment-17933 Hi Tanja, Thank you for your kind words about the article. I'm sorry to hear about your sister. I would also agree that her current symptoms of schizophrenia and her prior infectious diseases and prolific use of high-dose antibiotics are certainly related. I would agree that she is probably dealing with a high bacterial load at the moment and that they best way help her out of the situation would be to put her on a treatment that kills these chronic bacteria. The article you read describes how our organization has developed a treatment called the Marshall Protocol that we have found can effectively kill a wide range of these chronic pathogens. Over the past seven years over 1000 people have used the treatment and most are reporting improvement and recovery from a host of inflammatory conditions including mental diagnoses. I would highly encourage your sister to try the Marshall Protocol. If she reads about the treatment and like you, finds it to be more logical than the other treatment options she has been offered, then maybe she would consider treatment. I can understand on her end why she would not necessarily want to take a host of mind-altering drugs that offer no potential for disease reversal but only management of symptoms at the cost of many side effects. So maybe the Marshall Protocol would appeal to her because it is very different from such other treatment options. Before doing the MP I also had intense and sometimes insane cravings for carbohydrates. Like your sister I simply could not control the urge to eat sugar and carbs. I tried my hardest and I am a very disciplined person but the cravings would literally overtake me. I was in college at the time and would end up eating my roommates' sugary food because i wouldn't buy my own, but could not help it. So I actually sympathize with your sister and subsequently hope even more that she might at least try the MP. As soon as I started the MP my carb cravings decreased significantly and was such a relief! Today they are gone completely and I almost don't even like the taste of sugar. I am so grateful! Best, Amy You can read more about the MP here: Hi Tanja,

Thank you for your kind words about the article. I’m sorry to hear about your sister. I would also agree that her current symptoms of schizophrenia and her prior infectious diseases and prolific use of high-dose antibiotics are certainly related. I would agree that she is probably dealing with a high bacterial load at the moment and that they best way help her out of the situation would be to put her on a treatment that kills these chronic bacteria. The article you read describes how our organization has developed a treatment called the Marshall Protocol that we have found can effectively kill a wide range of these chronic pathogens. Over the past seven years over 1000 people have used the treatment and most are reporting improvement and recovery from a host of inflammatory conditions including mental diagnoses.

I would highly encourage your sister to try the Marshall Protocol. If she reads about the treatment and like you, finds it to be more logical than the other treatment options she has been offered, then maybe she would consider treatment. I can understand on her end why she would not necessarily want to take a host of mind-altering drugs that offer no potential for disease reversal but only management of symptoms at the cost of many side effects. So maybe the Marshall Protocol would appeal to her because it is very different from such other treatment options.

Before doing the MP I also had intense and sometimes insane cravings for carbohydrates. Like your sister I simply could not control the urge to eat sugar and carbs. I tried my hardest and I am a very disciplined person but the cravings would literally overtake me. I was in college at the time and would end up eating my roommates’ sugary food because i wouldn’t buy my own, but could not help it. So I actually sympathize with your sister and subsequently hope even more that she might at least try the MP. As soon as I started the MP my carb cravings decreased significantly and was such a relief! Today they are gone completely and I almost don’t even like the taste of sugar. I am so grateful!

Best,

Amy

You can read more about the MP here:

]]> By: Amy Proal http://bacteriality.com/2007/11/28/sense/comment-page-1/#comment-17932 Amy Proal Fri, 14 Aug 2009 14:48:01 +0000 http://bacteriality.com/2007/11/28/sense/#comment-17932 Hi Tanja, Unfortunately, yes, I definitely think that childhood vaccines can also be contaminated. However, I don't feel it is my place to advise anyone against vaccinating their child. The diseases prevented by childhood vaccines are also debilitating and can introduce pathogens into the body that can mutate into chronic forms and later cause major problems. So right now, in my opinion, there is really no right path to take when it comes to childhood vaccinations. All I can offer is that if a child starts to present with signs of Th1 disease after a vaccination, he/she could be put on the MP ASAP in order to kill any chronic bacteria they may have accumulated. Of course, things will really change if we can work to make the medical community fully aware of this issue. Best, Amy Hi Tanja,

Unfortunately, yes, I definitely think that childhood vaccines can also be contaminated.

However, I don’t feel it is my place to advise anyone against vaccinating their child. The diseases prevented by childhood vaccines are also debilitating and can introduce pathogens into the body that can mutate into chronic forms and later cause major problems.

So right now, in my opinion, there is really no right path to take when it comes to childhood vaccinations. All I can offer is that if a child starts to present with signs of Th1 disease after a vaccination, he/she could be put on the MP ASAP in order to kill any chronic bacteria they may have accumulated.

Of course, things will really change if we can work to make the medical community fully aware of this issue.

Best,

Amy

]]> By: Tanja Gacic http://bacteriality.com/2007/11/28/sense/comment-page-1/#comment-17923 Tanja Gacic Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:47:16 +0000 http://bacteriality.com/2007/11/28/sense/#comment-17923 PS Could we if above article is correct be safe to assume that vaccines transfer a whole host of unknown bacteria in to newborn babies' bodies too? PS Could we if above article is correct be safe to assume that vaccines transfer a whole host of unknown bacteria in to newborn babies’ bodies too?

]]> By: Tanja http://bacteriality.com/2007/11/28/sense/comment-page-1/#comment-17922 Tanja Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:35:30 +0000 http://bacteriality.com/2007/11/28/sense/#comment-17922 Hi Amy, May i firstly say your article is incredible.It makes so much sense on a whole lot of levels. My sister has been having schizophrenic symptoms for the last year and has refused any treatment.Everyone feels this is due to some trauma,but she has had no bad trauma whilst all the while has had gut problems all her life and skin problems too.She was in the hospital @ 9 years old with a "salmonella" type infection that all the doctors were baffled with and took a very long time to cure with a battery of antibiotics. Also a year ago her symptoms surfaced right after she finished a heavy drug treatment for her acne and then contracted a bad case of gastro.Coincidence? I feel not.After researching books and articles every night for a year now i feel she is overrun with bacteria whose waste byproducts are somehow leaking through her gut and travelling into her brain producing opiate like symptoms.Also as many autistic children she is absolutely addicted to carbohydrates and sugars which are exacerbating her symptoms further.We have tried putting her on a low carb diet but she runs off and buys herself what she wants.She is 25 and legally we cannot do anything.I wish the medical community woke up to these facts and found cures for many of these obvious bacterial conditions.Thank you so much for doing such good work.It is a pleasure to see someone in the medical community following logic and not the "cascade of opinion". Hi Amy,
May i firstly say your article is incredible.It makes so much sense on a whole lot of levels.
My sister has been having schizophrenic symptoms for the last year and has refused any treatment.Everyone feels this is due to some trauma,but she has had no bad trauma whilst all the while has had gut problems all her life and skin problems too.She was in the hospital @ 9 years old with a “salmonella” type infection that all the doctors were baffled with and took a very long time to cure with a battery of antibiotics. Also a year ago her symptoms surfaced right after she finished a heavy drug treatment for her acne and then contracted a bad case of gastro.Coincidence? I feel not.After researching books and articles every night for a year now i feel she is overrun with bacteria whose waste byproducts are somehow leaking through her gut and travelling into her brain producing opiate like symptoms.Also as many autistic children she is absolutely addicted to carbohydrates and sugars which are exacerbating her symptoms further.We have tried putting her on a low carb diet but she runs off and buys herself what she wants.She is 25 and legally we cannot do anything.I wish the medical community woke up to these facts and found cures for many of these obvious bacterial conditions.Thank you so much for doing such good work.It is a pleasure to see someone in the medical community following logic and not the “cascade of opinion”.

]]> By: Amy Proal http://bacteriality.com/2007/11/28/sense/comment-page-1/#comment-16132 Amy Proal Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:38:25 +0000 http://bacteriality.com/2007/11/28/sense/#comment-16132 Hi Adria, I'm glad that you are interested in learning more about bacteria and the many ways in which they influence our environment and our health. It's great to have a sense of curiosity like you do and I hope that at some point you can maybe go into science. Yes, I know the information in the vitamin D article is not what you are used to hearing. But it's based on the latest molecular research on vitamin D and offers a new perspective on the substance that is really important to consider. To be clear, milk is a food. What I argue is that the vitamin D added to milk is not a vitamin but a secosteroid/hormone. It's a big problem that extra levels of this secosteroid is added to milk. Since "vitamin" D slows the immune system it is not something anyone wants to consume in large quantities or add artificially to food. Milk is OK to drink, and actually very healthy to drink as long as it is not supplemented with the secosteroid D. Keep reading about scientific topics and all the best! Best, Amy Hi Adria,

I’m glad that you are interested in learning more about bacteria and the many ways in which they influence our environment and our health. It’s great to have a sense of curiosity like you do and I hope that at some point you can maybe go into science.

Yes, I know the information in the vitamin D article is not what you are used to hearing. But it’s based on the latest molecular research on vitamin D and offers a new perspective on the substance that is really important to consider. To be clear, milk is a food. What I argue is that the vitamin D added to milk is not a vitamin but a secosteroid/hormone. It’s a big problem that extra levels of this secosteroid is added to milk. Since “vitamin” D slows the immune system it is not something anyone wants to consume in large quantities or add artificially to food. Milk is OK to drink, and actually very healthy to drink as long as it is not supplemented with the secosteroid D.

Keep reading about scientific topics and all the best!

Best,

Amy

]]> By: Adria Allison http://bacteriality.com/2007/11/28/sense/comment-page-1/#comment-16121 Adria Allison Mon, 16 Mar 2009 01:33:16 +0000 http://bacteriality.com/2007/11/28/sense/#comment-16121 I enjoyed reading these studies and articles. I am interested in the making of bio fuel out of pond algae. I did a research paper in the 6th grade on the affects of algae to catfish in Mississippi Delta Ponds. I am interested in attending MSVU this fall. I am a farm girl.These articles contain a wealth of information that can help me better my health. The vitamin D article was the most interesting. I am shocked to know that milk is not an actual vitamin. Thank you for providing knowlege. It is power my mind needs to learn and grow in my interests in science. I enjoyed reading these studies and articles. I am interested in the making of bio fuel out of pond algae.
I did a research paper in the 6th grade on the affects of algae to catfish in Mississippi Delta Ponds. I am interested in attending MSVU this fall. I am a farm girl.These articles contain a wealth of information that can help me better my health. The vitamin D article was the most interesting. I am shocked to know that milk is not an actual vitamin.
Thank you for providing knowlege. It is power my mind needs to learn and grow in my interests in science.

]]> By: Amy Proal http://bacteriality.com/2007/11/28/sense/comment-page-1/#comment-15816 Amy Proal Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:13:06 +0000 http://bacteriality.com/2007/11/28/sense/#comment-15816 It appears you are quite right, Peeco. I have adjusted the language to more accurately reflect the true nature of Occam's Razor. thanks, Amy It appears you are quite right, Peeco. I have adjusted the language to more accurately reflect the true nature of Occam’s Razor.

thanks,
Amy

]]> By: Peeco http://bacteriality.com/2007/11/28/sense/comment-page-1/#comment-15809 Peeco Mon, 12 Jan 2009 07:28:27 +0000 http://bacteriality.com/2007/11/28/sense/#comment-15809 Hello Amy, I love your articles and all the work you do to get the MP to people, but I have one small correction for this article: the Occam razor is not saying anything like the simplest solution is in absence of other facts usually the right one, please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor. Good luck with your work, health and your progress. Hello Amy,
I love your articles and all the work you do to get the MP to people, but I have one small correction for this article: the Occam razor is not saying anything like the simplest solution is in absence of other facts usually the right one, please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor. Good luck with your work, health and your progress.

]]> By: Amy Proal http://bacteriality.com/2007/11/28/sense/comment-page-1/#comment-15437 Amy Proal Sat, 27 Dec 2008 19:12:12 +0000 http://bacteriality.com/2007/11/28/sense/#comment-15437 Hi Leigh, Will the MP work for you? Based on your symptoms I say absolutely yes! There are subjects in the MP trial who have all of the conditions or symptoms you have listed who are reporting improvement and recovery. UTIs, allergic reactions, and sensitivities to smells or food practically scream infection with chronic bacteria that the MP is able to kill. I myself had many of the symptoms you describe and after 3 years on the MP most of them went away. I am not surprised that conventional medical approaches have not worked for you since they do not target the root cause of your symptoms - many different species of chronic bacteria and a weakened immune response that can gradually be restored with the MP. If you need extra confirmation that the MP might work for you, you could get your D metabolites tested. A dyregulated D ratio is a good indication of the presence of the Th1 pathogens (the bacteria implicated in chronic disease). Here are instructions: http://www.marshallprotocol.com/forum2/366.html However just starting the MP medicines and seeing if you experience a die-off reaction in response to the antibiotics is, in my opinion, the best way to tell that the treatment will help you. If you get a die-off reaction then you are killing bacteria...and if you are killing bacteria then that is very likely the cause of your symptoms. This article describes the approach in greater depth: http://bacteriality.com/2008/02/23/misconceptions/#10 I'm very glad to hear that you think your team of doctors would help guide you with the MP. At the beginning however, you may actually have to educate them about the treatment. One of the best ways to do that is to read as much as possible on this site and the Marshall Protocol study site (marshallprotocol.com) so that you can describe the MP eloquently to your doctors and sound like you are prepared to start the treatment. Your doctors will probably want to read peer reviewed scientific papers about the MP and should definitely watch as many videos as possible of Dr. Marshall speaking at several of the prestigious international conferences he has presented at this year. The links to his papers and presentations can be found here: http://mpkb.org/doku.php?id=home:publications:home At this link you can also print out an "MP guide for doctors" that should give your doctors the basic info they need to get you started on the MP: http://www.marshallprotocol.com/forum2/11458.html Next, you should ask your doctors to join the "Private Section for Medical Professionals" which is the first forum on the MP study site (www.marshallprotocol.com). Once they are members of that forum they can communicate with other doctors with MP patients and get free advice directly from Dr. Marshall. Dr. Marshall is also willing to talk to any doctor about the MP on the phone. His number is mentioned in the Phase 1 guidelines: http://www.marshallprotocol.com/forum2/2275.html Finally, I recommend that you write a post about your desire to start the MP at the following website: www.curemyth1.org (Th1 refers to bacteria). The patient advocates on the site, who answer questions for free, can answer even more questions about the MP and how to present it to your doctors. You will be able to communicate with other MP patients who can offer very helpful advice on what they did when starting the treatment. I hope this helps! Good luck and happy holidays! Amy Hi Leigh,

Will the MP work for you? Based on your symptoms I say absolutely yes! There are subjects in the MP trial who have all of the conditions or symptoms you have listed who are reporting improvement and recovery. UTIs, allergic reactions, and sensitivities to smells or food practically scream infection with chronic bacteria that the MP is able to kill. I myself had many of the symptoms you describe and after 3 years on the MP most of them went away.

I am not surprised that conventional medical approaches have not worked for you since they do not target the root cause of your symptoms – many different species of chronic bacteria and a weakened immune response that can gradually be restored with the MP.

If you need extra confirmation that the MP might work for you, you could get your D metabolites tested. A dyregulated D ratio is a good indication of the presence of the Th1 pathogens (the bacteria implicated in chronic disease). Here are instructions:

http://www.marshallprotocol.com/forum2/366.html

However just starting the MP medicines and seeing if you experience a die-off reaction in response to the antibiotics is, in my opinion, the best way to tell that the treatment will help you. If you get a die-off reaction then you are killing bacteria…and if you are killing bacteria then that is very likely the cause of your symptoms. This article describes the approach in greater depth:

http://bacteriality.com/2008/02/23/misconceptions/#10

I’m very glad to hear that you think your team of doctors would help guide you with the MP. At the beginning however, you may actually have to educate them about the treatment. One of the best ways to do that is to read as much as possible on this site and the Marshall Protocol study site (marshallprotocol.com) so that you can describe the MP eloquently to your doctors and sound like you are prepared to start the treatment.

Your doctors will probably want to read peer reviewed scientific papers about the MP and should definitely watch as many videos as possible of Dr. Marshall speaking at several of the prestigious international conferences he has presented at this year. The links to his papers and presentations can be found here:

http://mpkb.org/doku.php?id=home:publications:home

At this link you can also print out an “MP guide for doctors” that should give your doctors the basic info they need to get you started on the MP:

http://www.marshallprotocol.com/forum2/11458.html

Next, you should ask your doctors to join the “Private Section for Medical Professionals” which is the first forum on the MP study site (www.marshallprotocol.com). Once they are members of that forum they can communicate with other doctors with MP patients and get free advice directly from Dr. Marshall. Dr. Marshall is also willing to talk to any doctor about the MP on the phone. His number is mentioned in the Phase 1 guidelines:

http://www.marshallprotocol.com/forum2/2275.html

Finally, I recommend that you write a post about your desire to start the MP at the following website:

http://www.curemyth1.org (Th1 refers to bacteria). The patient advocates on the site, who answer questions for free, can answer even more questions about the MP and how to present it to your doctors. You will be able to communicate with other MP patients who can offer very helpful advice on what they did when starting the treatment.

I hope this helps!

Good luck and happy holidays!

Amy

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