1 Mar 2008
What’s the latest news among people taking statins, or drugs that are marketed as cholesterol lowering agents? Pfizer Inc.’s Lipitor, the world’s best-selling statin, with revenues of $12.6 billion in 2007, causes some women to experience what researchers are referring to as serious cognitive side effects, reports reports The Wall Street Journal.
“This drug makes women stupid,” Orli Etingin, vice chairman of medicine at NewYork-Presbyterian Hospital, declared at a recent luncheon discussion sponsored by Project A.L.S. to raise awareness of gender issues and the brain. Dr. Etingin, who is also founder and director of the Iris Cantor Women’s Health Center in New York, told those present about a typical patient in her 40s, who after taking Lipitor was unable to concentrate or recall words. Tests found nothing amiss, but when the woman stopped taking Lipitor, the symptoms vanished. When she resumed taking Lipitor, they returned.
“I’ve seen this in maybe two dozen patients,” Dr. Etingin said later, adding that they did better on other statins. “This is just observational, of course. We really need more studies, particularly on cognitive effects and women.”
Gayatri Devi, an associate professor of neurology and psychiatry at New York University School of Medicine, says she’s seen at least six patients whose memory problems were traceable to statins in 12 years of practice. “The changes started to occur within six weeks of starting the statin, and the cognitive abilities returned very quickly when they went off,” says Dr. Devi. “It’s just a handful of patients, but for them, it made a huge difference.”
Researchers at the University of California at San Diego are nearing completion of a randomized controlled trial examining the effects of statins on thinking, mood, behavior, and quality of life. As part of a separate project the team is also collecting anecdotal experiences of patients, good and bad, on statins. They’ve found that in about 5000 people to date, memory problems are the second most common side effect, after muscle aches.
“We have some compelling cases,” says Beatrice Golomb, the study’s lead researcher. One case is that of 69-year-old Jane Brunzie, a San Diego woman who after taking a statin became so forgetful that her daughter sought to put her under care for Alzheimer’s and refused to let her babysit for her 9-year-old granddaughter. Then Brunzie stopped taking the statin. “Literally, within eight days, I was back to normal — it was that dramatic,” says Brunzie.
Doctors put her on different statins three more times. “They’d say, ‘Here, try these samples.’ Doctors don’t want to give up on it,” she says. “Within a few days of starting another one, I’d start losing my words again,” says Mrs. Brunzie, who has gone back to volunteering at the local elementary school she loves.
“I feel very blessed — I got about 99% of my memory back,” she adds. “But I worry about people like me who are starting to lose their words who may think they have just normal aging and it may not be.”
There’s no doubt that some women who take Lipitor, also called atorvastatin, are experiencing increased mental problems. But is their loss of cognitive function an unexplainable side effect of the drug, or is something else going on?
That something else may very well be immunopathology – or the immune system’s response to bacterial death. Women who are prescribed statins are almost certainly infected with L-form bacteria, as the pathogens and other biofilm bacteria (collectively called the Th1 pathogens) are responsible for causing the inflammation that leads to high cholesterol.
As patient reports from the Marshall Protocol site confirm, the Th1 pathogens seldom infect only one area of the body, and everyone in the population acquires them as they age. This means that many women prescribed statins for high cholesterol very likely have these bacteria in their brains as well.
Aside from mild episodes of brain fog or memory loss, most women on statins are probably unaware of the that fact their brains may harbor Th1 pathogens, largely because it’s not until these bacteria are killed that the host becomes acutely aware of their presence.
When the immune system targets the Th1 pathogens, it releases a host of inflammatory molecules in response to their death, which along with the toxins released by the bacteria as they die, and the debri from the cell they once inhabited, cause a rise in symptoms in the area in which the bacteria are been killed (immunopathology).
Interestingly, biomedical researcher Trevor Marshall’s recent molecular modeling research has made it abundantly clear that while statins do lower cholesterol, their main actions on the body come not from their cholesterol lowering properties but from the fact that they bind the nuclear receptors – a class of receptors intrically connected to the activity of the innate immune system. These receptors include the Vitamin D Receptor, the glucocorticoid receptor, and the alpha and beta thyroid receptors.
These are the same receptors activated by Benicar – the ARB medication used by patients on the Marshall Protocol; the medication that activates and enables the innate immune system. In fact, drugs such as Benicar that bind and activate the nuclear receptors can be so effective at turning on the innate immune system that they enable some people to kill the Th1 pathogens even without the help of antibiotics.
Despite the fact that Lipitor doesn’t bind the VDR directly, it still affects, and could very likely activate, the immune system because it binds both the glucocorticoid and thyroid receptors with a very high affinity in both cases. Could this mean that those women who experience a rise in cognitive symptoms from Lipitor are simply feeling the effects of bacterial die-off in the brain as the statin allows their immune system to target pathogens in that area more effectively?
Brain fog, memory loss, inability to process and retain information, loss of problem solving skills, and significant drops in other areas of cognitive function are certainly observed among women who begin to kill bacteria on the Marshall Protocol.
If this is the case, then those women to experience cognitive side effects from Lipitor would be best off starting the Marshall Protocol – using Benicar and the MP antibiotics to fully eliminate Th1 pathogens in the brain. Of course, until the ability of statins to activate the nuclear receptors and the presence of the Th1 pathogens is accepted by mainstream medicine, women like Jean Brunzie will remain perplexed as to how a simple cholesterol lowering medication could so profoundly effect their mood, memory, and ability to think.
10 Responses for "Mysterious side effects or bacterial death?"
Hi Amy,
Just read your March 1 piece on the side effects of the statins. You (correctly, in my view) hypothesize the brain fog side effect of Lipitor as bacterial die off of pathogens in the brain. This, according to the data, is the #2 side effect, second only to muscle soreness.
Why limit our scope to brain fog? Could we not hypothesize the muscle soreness as being the result of bacteria die off there (Fibromyalgia)? This would give us the top 2 “side effects”, both explained by the MP revelation.
So, you know where I’m going here, what are the #3, #4, etc. most common “side effects” of these medications? Do they fit into the autoimmune disease family of chronic diseases?
Do you plan to include this information in your upcoming presentation with Trevor?
Phil
Hi Phil,
That, in my eyes is a very insightful observation, and one that crossed my mind as well while reading the reports of cognitive loss in women on statins. Could the reported side-effects of statins really just be immunopathology (for the most part)?
At this point essentially no research has been done that addresses the effects of statins on the nuclear receptors (except Marshall’s) so it’s hard to know. But one thing I have noticed is that some people seem to be much more impacted by what are being called the side effects of statins than other people. Could it it be that people who harbor more Th1 pathogens are the ones to note greater side effects from statins? Wouldn’t it be great if more studies investigated that possibility?
A researcher named Uffe Ravnskov, published a comment in the British Medical Journal about the recent IDEAL trial, which compared patients taking the statin simvastatin to patients taking the statin atorvastatin. The researchers found that almost 90% of participants in both groups had side effects. Half were considered serious. Well, I’d say at least 90% of the older adults usually prescribed statins have accumulated enough Th1 pathogens for the drugs to cause them to experience immunopathology and that’s quite a heavy load of side effects for people taking statins to endure.
Read this article by Ravnskov, which describes the top side effects observed among patients taking statins. They sound very similar to the symptoms patients on the MP report as a result of immunopathology.
http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/332/7553/1330?ijkey=XhTeJopzPkacsS2&keytype=ref
Too bad it all has to be speculative at this point. Each statin is so different in terms of what nuclear receptors it binds that we cannot even generalize about them as a class. All I know is that something fishy is going on, and that there are more to statins then meets the eye.
Best,
Amy
With so much genetic research going on, its still a mystery why one identical twin(with same environment and diet) can get a disease such as cancer while the other doesnt. When you said Th1 disease could explain the statin side affects, it made me wonder if it could help explain this.
Hi GinORL,
The statin side effects being caused by the Th1 pathogens is directly related to the fact that the Th1 pathogens are implicated in nearly all inflammatory diseases including cancers.
We hypothesize that the differences in cancers seen in identical twins is due, not to their common genetic heritage, but the pathogens they’ve encountered over their lifetime. While the genes are the same, the pathogens are different and thus the discrepancy in incidence of cancer.
You might want to take a look at my Paul Ewald interview who discusses, why from an evolutionary perspective, it only makes sense that pathogens rather than faulty genes cause inflammatory disease such as cancer. He has also looked at identical twins and come to the conclusion that differences in pathogen load causes one twin to develop different diseases than another. Here is an interview with Alan Cantwell who shows some of the bacteria caused in cancer patients.
Amy
I have been on statins for about 4 years. The problem I seem to be having is a enlarged liver and a heptic? Liver, also a fatty liver… My enzyme count is a bit high on my liver count… Any insite? I am just scared…pocketpomslv@aol.com
Hi Ginger,
I can understand your concern. Generally speaking, patients on the Marshall Protocol try to avoid statins given concerns about their safety. Can your doctor suggest an alternative to statins, or perhaps would you be interested in trying the Marshall Protocol?
Have a look at these articles:
http://mpkb.org/doku.php/home:othertreatments:cholesterol_drugs
http://mpkb.org/doku.php/home:patients:protocol_overview
Best,
Paul
Could other medicines cause the same scenerio? I haven’t taken my statin medicine on a regular shedule, I took it for one month about a year ago and then again for about two weeks back in June. I have been on bp and diabetis meds for almost ten years (metformin, glyberide, actos, atenolol, enalapril and HTCZ). I have had so many health complaints for the past ten years, some are constant while others come and go. When I first started the statin, I became very, very ill, Primarily, chronic fatigue, severe gastro-intestinal issues. These problems lasted about six months and after many medical tests, I was told nothing was wrong with me. The mysterious six month long illness disappeared as quickly as it came, almost overnight. I was told that my liver was slightly enlarged and was because of morbid obesity. I thought my illness and my enlarged liver might have occurred due to a medicinal toxicity. So, I stop all meds. (Over the years, the pros added zoloft, clonipin, ativan, nasonex, gabapentin,ranitidine,) I was given Reglan during the six month period, it made it possible for me to eat one or two small meals a day. Several years ago I started a multi-vitamin which did help alleviate some of my depilitating depression. With all stated, I go through phases of what seems like I become an idiot. Confusion, brain fog, poor decision-making skills, poor word retrieval, irritation, extremely low energy levels, aches, pains, muscle soreness, just to name a few, these phases vary in duration of a few days to several weeks to months at a time. Two days ago, I decided it might be wise to start the statin again, the next evening i was in the ER, it seemed like all the complaints hit me at once. I broke down and told the treating Dr. all my complaints. After many tests and a lot of strange looks from the staff, I was told that ” I was having a Panic Attack, yet after I was given a shot of ativan, I still had all same complaints, so I went home with no answers, no relief and felt alittle bit groggier.
After my Jaunt to the ER, yesterday I got on-line and almost immediately found this site and spent the entire day and evening reading about th1, MP and so on. I extremely interested in MP, I want to give it a try. But after being treated like a hyperchondriac at the ER, I want a Dr. experianced with alll this. I live in Palm Beach County, FL. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Hi Katrina,
Being labelled a hypochondriac is practically a rite of passage for people suffering from chronic diseases. The MP may indeed prove to be a good option for you.
Here is the Knowledge Base article on Starting the Treatment:
http://mpkb.org/doku.php/home:starting
Look for my email.
Best,
Paul
Hi Katrina,
I’m really sorry to hear about all the symptoms you are dealing with. Your experience with statins certainly supports what I put forth in the above article. As I discussed, our research shows that statins do much more than lower blood pressure. It appears that they can bind important nuclear receptors and affect their activity as well. This subsequently can impact how the immune system is able to target chronic bacteria.
Long story short, your reaction to taking statins along with your description of the symptoms you are suffering from strongly suggests that you have a high load of bacterial pathogens that may be causing you to feel so ill. As you probably realize, this website also discusses a treatment for chronic inflammatory disease that aims to target these bacteria. Many of the patients who start the treatment (the Marshall Protocol) have symptoms similar to yours and were treated with the same drugs you are taking prior to starting the Marshall Protocol.
You may want to read about the treatment in greater depth – however I have to warn you in advance that killing bacteria on the Marshall Protocol causes a bacterial die-off reaction that actually makes patients feel worse before they get better. Also in your case, where your bacterial load seems high, the treatment would last at least several years. Nevertheless it might be worth looking into since the current medical help you are getting seems very poor. It’s hard for me to understand how doctors are telling you that is nothing wrong with you and leaving you with no answers whatsoever about what may be causing you to feel so bad.
Best,
Amy