19 Jun 2008
Sick ever since childhood, this resident of New Jersey finally hit rock bottom after developing diabetes and becoming blind in one eye. Not to mention the fact that by the mid 80s his bowels were seriously affected and sarcoidosis had spread throughout much of his body. Yet, after several years on Autoimmunity Research Foundation’s Marshall Protocol, this grandfather has largely recovered from each of his diseases, to the point where he is barely conscious of symptoms and has extra time for work and play. Meet Chris Eastlund.

Things first started to go wrong when I was around 8-10 years old. I spent an entire summer just sleeping on my grandmother’s couch. I’m told I was only awake for about four hours a day. I now realize that such fatigue is one of the symptoms of pediatric Lyme, but when I was taken to the Mayo Clinic I was told nothing was wrong with me.
I pushed on, but could never play endurance sports. I could never run for even 1/4 of a mile before having to stop. At first I thought I could join the cross country team and train my body to handle more exercise. While running I would feel better, but then a few hours later, I would suffer from feelings of fatigue and soreness - what is often referred to as post-exertional malaise.
The first severe incident I experienced, which made it clear that something was drastically wrong with me, occurred during the summer of ‘83. I was driving home when my neck completely locked up. I couldn’t turn my head at all to look at the traffic coming at me from other directions. However, the issue resolved somewhat over the weekend so I decided to dismiss it as a summer flu.
But a month or two later, I was forced to go to the doctor because I was running a 103 degree fever. The doctor did a few tests and said, “I’ll meet you across the street at the hospital.” When I got there, the fever had risen to 105 degrees. I was in isolation for about a week, until they figured it wasn’t contagious because I hadn’t died yet.
During that week, and over the next couple of weeks, the fever often bounced back up close to 105, with the peaks slowly decreasing. To control the fever, the nurses gave me large quantities of aspirin. The aspirin decreased the fever, but only after generating an hour or two of cold sweats, which left me drenched. When the aspirin wore off a few hours later, the fever would soar again. I would begin to shudder uncontrollably from the chills for another hour or so. I was miserable and the experience was extremely exhausting, since I was continually alternating between chills and bed-soaking cold sweats.
After about three weeks in the hospital, the fever seemed to be tapering a bit, and the doctors didn’t know what to do with me, so I was sent home. Nevertheless, I didn’t experience a fever-free day for the next six months. Even after that point, the fever would come back about monthly, although not as intensely. In retrospect, it seemed very similar to a tick-bourne relapsing fever. I was living in Minnesota before the fever incident, and doing a bit of canoeing in the boundary waters. So I could have definitely acquired a wide variety of bug bites during that time.
I went again to the Mayo Clinic, where the doctors again could find nothing wrong with me. All I could do was try to push on. Soon, my family moved to New Jersey where I began a new job. One day I ate a very nice, fatty, Reuben sandwich and realized that the meal caused my fever to return. After that, I continually noted that my symptoms would flare after eating fatty foods. Any fatty food would trigger both fever and bowel troubles.
Soon, I developed a serious case of irritable bowel syndrome and was officially diagnosed with the disease. It got worse and worse, to the point where there was bleeding in my stools, and daily painful cramping. The fevers kept returning, and the hospital trips got more frequent. I got used to things like celebrating my birthday in the hospital.
Then, during Thanksgiving dinner of 1988 (or thereabouts), I tried to stand and realized I couldn’t get up. When I stretched my leg out, I realized I had a large lump on my calf that was about the size of a robin’s egg. My doctors thought it might be cancer so they cut it out. It turned out to be a huge granuloma. My doctors had never seen anything like it and I was later informed that my case was the featured discussion in the Monday physicians’ meeting.
A sarcoidosis “expert” weighed in on the issue and said the granuloma was too “strange” to be caused by sarcoidosis, and a negative Kveim test (a skin test used to diagnose sarcoidosis) seemed to support his view. So I was left without an explanation. During the years that followed, I was paranoid that a similar granuloma could grow on my heart and simply kill me. That’s why I sometimes have to calm myself down when I talk to people with inflammatory disease. My own experiences have made it clear that these diseases can be deadly.
The fevers began to occur again and I desperately wanted to get admitted to the hospital in order to get more testing done. But my fevers only last about 4 days. Since it took several days to consult a doctor in order to get admitted, I could never maintain the fever long enough to get in. So I scratched my head and thought, “I’ll make myself so sick that they will be sure to find something wrong and admit me to the hospital.” I proceeded to drink and eat as much fat as possible. I downed whole milk and every fatty food in site. It worked. I was royally sick. At that point I didn’t even care about making myself feed bad. I was so used to pain and symptoms that extra symptoms almost didn’t even matter anymore. When they finally got around to doing a bone marrow biopsy, I’m not even sure they needed anesthetic. It was painful but I didn’t care.
The biopsy revealed more granulomas and this time my doctors enthusiastically told me that I did indeed have sarcoidosis. It felt good to have a diagnosis because for the previous 7-8 years I had just been drastically ill and scared out of my wits with no explanation. In 1991, I was put on the corticosteroid medication prednisone.
The short-term palliation made me feel a little better, so in ‘96 I decided to try going on a church ski group outing with my son. I was careful not to overdo the physical activity. After skiing I walked away tired and not hurting. But then two days later, I started to feel much worse. I got so ill that I could barely walk and could only manage a slow trudge. I tried controlling my symptoms with Motrin, but when I stopped the medication, I realized that my body was in severe pain. My legs were also covered in thumb-print sized red spots.
My wife had to borrow a wheelchair to take me to the hospital. Another biopsy was performed. This time it revealed sarcoidosis in the blood vessels of my leg. At that point I realized that once a person is infected with the Th1 pathogens, any repair attempt by the immune system simply introduces more of the bacteria.
I depended on the palliative effects of prednisone to function. Often I had to raise my dose all the way up to 60 mg. I knew the drug was compromising my immune system and had a plethora of side effects but I needed some sort of a life. I stayed on the prednisone and decided to plan a trip where my son, my cousin, and I could simply float down a Wisconsin river on a raft. We specifically chose a quiet river, so that the trip downstream would require little exertion. Nevertheless, a day and a half into the trip, I became symptomatic once again. The malaise was intolerable and I suffered from aches and pains in my muscles. I had no energy whatsoever - certainly not enough to cope with any mistakes on the water. I also couldn’t think straight, and thus became a liability to the group. We had to bug out and thumb a ride back to the cars.
After returning home and doing nothing but resting, I felt somewhat better. The next time I tried to do any form of physical activity was in 2003. After my brother’s funeral, some of us went out in 30 below weather to shoot clay pigeons. My symptoms immediately flared again.
It was then that I realized exactly how little it took to put me over the edge. I was so ill that even the most mild forms of exertion could make my symptoms intolerable. Anything I did seemed to put me in danger. Around that time, I was also diagnosed with diabetes. I felt dizzy and extra fatigued. A lot of things seem to be failing. I developed retinopathy, a condition in which the eye leaks fluid, and will cause blindness if uncontrolled. My eyes were so affected that I became blind in one eye. My cholesterol and triglycerides levels had also soared and my PSA, which measures prostate function, was out of range.
At that point, I took inventory and realized just how ill I was. A year or so before, I had come across the website Sarcinfo.com, the precursor website to what is now the Marshall Protocol study site. The science on the site had caught my attention. But at the time, one of our sons was still living with us and I thought I should wait to start the treatment until he had finished his final year at school. But once the blindness and the retionopathy began, I realized that I was not looking at very much fun for the rest of my life, or necessarily a very long one. I took the plunge and started the Marshall Protocol. My family and friends teased me but I stuck with it. My kids were sure I’d gone off the deep end and had joined a cult.
It took me six months to get through phase 1. I was basically miserable the whole time but tried to work for the first three or four months. That didn’t go so well, so I combined vacation and holidays and took the last two months of 2004 off. I spent nearly the whole time on the couch. When I first ramped my minocycline up to 50 mg, I spent a couple hours every other day shaking as a result of the bacterial die-off reaction. But I pushed ahead because I had the feeling that if I could get through phase one, the other phases would be easier to manage.
This proved to be partly true. I did feel better during phase II, but I still had to take days off work, and wasn’t that productive. I finally managed to talk my company into giving me a few months of disability which allowed me to rest more and better manage my immunopathology. One of the phase three antibiotics threw me for a loop for a period of time, particularly by inducing bacterial die-off in the brain. But I was always aware of the fact that I was killing the pathogens making me ill, and with each year on the treatment, particularly after year three, the die-off started became easier and easier to tolerate.
One of the phase three antibiotics also temporarily brought back symptoms of depression. I had seen a doctor for depression during the time when I was suffering from my severe fevers, but thought that my depression was just a result of coping with extreme illness. But I now realize that at least part of my depression related to the presence of bacteria, as symptoms of depression did return with my immunopathology. Once on the MP, I went through a long period where I had great problems making decisions. Sometimes I would wake up feeling paranoid. Now those symptoms are gone. So I don’t have to take Valium anymore (I used to take it in order to manage the mental symptoms). The fact that my performance reports from work are coming back with higher scores definitely shows I’m making better decisions.
I have completely recovered from diabetes. I used to have a meter that allowed me to measure blood sugar and I gave it away to my brother. I also have no more retinopathy, though some permanent damage remains. My blood sugar is normal and I have no problems when consuming carbohydrates. No more fuzziness or dizziness. In fact, I have almost lost my taste for sugar. If I eat too much sugar it actually seems overly sweet.
I never have a fever anymore. My irritable bowel syndrome has resolved to the point where I feel only occasional mild exacerbation of symptoms if I take one of the phase three antibiotic combinations. I haven’t had a test to confirm that I no longer have sarcoidosis, but my inflammatory markers have come back into the normal range. My SED rate has dropped and my IGG levels have started to come back up.
My fatigue has vastly improved and my energy level is up. Pre-MP I started to get poor ratings on progress reports from my boss. Now, the ratings have gone up due to the fact that I once again have energy to dedicate to my job. Before the MP I would be exhausted at work before 5:00 pm and have to rest on my desk just to have the energy to make it home. Now, on many nights, I have the energy to work late in order to complete extra projects.
Before starting the Masrhall Protocol I was constantly plagued by my symptoms and always fighting through them. Now, unless I get too much sun, I barely think about them. If I do feel a little tired, an extra Benicar allows me to bounce back.
Several years ago I was forced to miss my son’s graduation because I was so sick, but now I can look ahead at upcoming events and have no doubt that I will be able to attend them. I was just at a wedding that I thoroughly enjoyed. When I get back from work these days I still have some energy, and I can play outside with our grandchild as long as I wear a hat, zinc-oxide sunscreen, and gloves. My endurance isn’t up to wilderness travel yet, but I’m pretty sure I’ll work up to it.
I forgot to mention before that in my 20s, during college, I started to have back problems. My back would go out and I would feel like an old man. I tried to get into bowling (a relatively mild sport), but couldn’t stick with it because my back or arm would go out, leaving me suffering for at least three weeks. Although I still haven’t gotten back to bowling regularly, now when I bowl, I walk away without pain. I should mention that both shoulders froze up at different times during the MP. However, the physical therapist was surprised at how quickly and completely the problem resolved.
When it comes to exercise, I feel much more resilient but I don’t push myself. Since I never really was able to exercise before in my life, I don’t have any form of exercise to return to, but hope to do more camping and outdoor activities in the future.
I’m essentially reversing 50 years of illness, so I occasionally kill new colonies of bacteria that appear when my strengthened immune system wears away at fibrotic tissue. For example, a week ago I was going up the stairs when I had to stop because my ankle felt funny. For two nights it felt as if it had been twisted. I was probably killing pathogens that had been embedded in the fibrotic tissue of the ankle. So although all my symptoms have largely resolved, I still have bacteria left to kill.
Before starting the MP, I was already very sensitive to light. In 1987, I took a trip to the Virginia coast with some friends. I already knew I was sensitive to the sun so I brought a beach tent. I didn’t get sunburned, but nevertheless, that night I developed the chills, shakes, and a mild fever. I proceeded to shake for the entire day that followed. It was the first time I realized that sun exposure can really flare the symptoms of Th1 disease.
Once I started the MP, I still had to be careful about avoiding sunlight and also wore sunglasses indoors when the lighting was bright or when I was on the computer. After witnessing the fact that I would start to physically shake after meetings in a sun-filled room, my boss was nice enough to move our group meetings into a room with no windows. My management was also OK with the fact that I wore sunglasses at work.
Today my light sensitivity has improved tremendously. I no longer wear sunglasses around the house or when on the computer. I used to wear a desert hat that wrapped around my face in order to avoid sun. On my last trip, I didn’t take it with me and held up just fine. If I drive off without the 2% NoIR glasses, I can get by with the 10%, though I haven’t done that enough to not be anxious about possible light flares.
It was extremely difficult to gather the will to ask a doctor to put me on the Marshall Protocol at a time when I was so beaten down by both my symptoms and the medical community. I had to go against everyone’s advice and say, “I don’t care what you think, this is what I know I have to do!” After all, once into the MP, I had periods of very difficult immunopathology, but I could tell the treatment was working. So it was that time - when I was at such a low point in life, yet had to step up to the plate and get a doctor to prescribe the MP medications - that was the hardest.
The second hardest part about the treatment was experiencing periods where my bacterial die-off reaction was constant. When I went through such periods, it was sometimes hard not to panic, and those around me would also start to panic just from watching me. Convincing them, and myself, that I was still doing the right thing would have been impossible without the help of the board moderators on the Marshall Protocol study site.
Do the treatment the way it is spelled out. Any time I tried to do anything that varied from the treatment guidelines I got burned. Also, don’t push yourself too hard, there is no need to experience intolerable immunopathology. I also encourage people to start the Marshall Protocol as soon as possible, at the very first sign of disease symptoms. I wish I had done the treatment earlier. It’s important for people to realize that the sooner one starts the MP, the easier it is to do and the shorter the recovery period becomes.
It’s frustrating, because I’ve tried to talk my kids into doing the Marshall Protocol but they seem to be waiting until they hit rock bottom to start it. Happily, my wife has started the treatment. She was recently diagnosed with Lyme and arthritis, and her vitamin D ratio is worse than mine was. She’s 18 months into the MP and seeing decent progress. But one of my son’s has Lyme disease and has decided not to do the MP. I am disappointed in his choice.
Sometimes people want to know why the MP takes so long. I ask them, “How long does it take to treat tuberculosis?” It can take decades to treat TB, so treating disease symptoms that have plagued me during my entire life is not going to happen quickly.
Well, my wife and I finally have the energy to get our kitchen redone - a project which will require quite a lot of lifting and moving boxes of stuff. It feels good to be investing in our future, something I barely thought about before the MP. I have more gumption and I am enjoying just living as a healthy person. I plan to try adding more activity to my life. We have our second grandchild on the way, and I look forward to spending time with the new child.
8 Responses for "Interview with Chris Eastlund - diabetes, sarcoidosis, irritable bowel syndrome"
Amy, I enjoyed reading Chris’ testimonial. Thanks for another excellent article and success story!
Good luck to Chris,
I also hope he can succeed to convince his son that living with Lyme dissease is not the right choise when powerful treatment like MP can help him to fully recover.
P.
Sorry for interrupting in a wrong area, but I must comment on this.
RE: # June 20, 2008: Study finds that healthy Indian hospital workers display low levels of vitamin D despite adequate sun exposure, providing support for Marshall’s model of vitamin D metabolism.
You don’t factor in that pollution, of which is abundant and increasing in India, is a factor in inhibiting UVB.
In Europe, fortification of D in foods is either insignificant or trace.
High levels in Europe are seen in those who periodically get UVB exposure, or natural matched levels by supplementation. This could be from tanning beds or the Mediterranean for example (relatively clean compared to India).
Also bare in mind that Bangladeshi women are by and large Muslim, and there is a conservative dress sense. Indeed, India too has a large Muslim community and even the Hindu and Sikh communities employ similar body exposure attitudes.
There is no peer reviewed evidence that 25D is immunosuppressive.
Since 25D is locally converted by tissues - and doesn’t contribute significantly to serum 1,25D - how can you say this when it’s 25D that is optimising local 1,25D? It’s not blocking it but helping it, hence a decrease in symptoms.
Hi Harold -
Wrong. There is peer reviewed evidence that 25-D is immunosuppressive. Apparently you have not read Dr. Marshall’s latest paper on vitamin D metabolism that was recently published in BioEssays? Here’s the link:
http://TrevorMarshall.com/BioEssays-Feb08-Marshall-Preprint.pdf
Not to mention the fact that Dr. Marshall just returned from giving a presentation about vitamin D and the pathogenesis of inflammatory disease at the Days of Molecular Medicine Conference in Karolinska, and that he will be charing an entire session about vitamin D and the VDR at the upcoming 6th Annual Conference on Autoimmunity.
The understanding that inflammatory diseases are caused by bacteria flips the conventional model of vitamin D metabolism on its head. 25-D is a secosteroid, and not surprisingly it works just like other steroids. It slows innate immune function in the short-term, preventing the rise in immunopathology and inflammation that occurs when bacteria are killed. This leads to short-term palliation, but in the long-run bacteria are able to spread with greater ease. When I say long run, I mean decades.
And this hypothesis makes sense - As people in all areas of the world supplement with higher than ever levels of vitamin D the rate of chronic disease continues to soar. Do you know one person who has been cured, long-term by vitamin D? Or do they feel better for a decade or two and then remain ill?
I encourage you to read other articles on this site so that you can understand Marshall’s alternate hypothesis for vitamin D in greater detail. His model is not only based on solid in silico data but is backed by an increasing array of clinical evidence derived from the Marshall Protocol study site itself. At least read this article:
“The truth about vitamin D: 14 reasons why misunderstanding endures”
http://bacteriality.com/2007/09/15/vitamind/
The rest of your comments, in my opinion, are too speculative to influence the discussion. Are you honestly saying that people in India don’t get sun anymore because of pollution? That’s ridiculous. Any visitor to India would come back with a tan. And are you aware that there is a new young generation of Indians who don’t cover up the way the old generations do? I’m quite sure that Indian hospital workers wear clothes comparable to those worn by their European counterparts.
The other study I cited specifically states that it tested the 25-D levels of NON-veiled Bangladeshi women.
So I encourage you to be open-minded and at least read Dr. Marshall’s papers the other literature on this site, and possibly data from the MP study before coming to a conclusion. A lot of assumptions have been made about vitamin D, but the alternate hypotheses must always be put on the table too.
Best,
Amy
Hi Amy,
I have read that link before. It is no way a study but an opinion based on interpretations of others studies. Where in this piece is ‘*we* studied…And *we* conclude?’
I do not dispute that some inflammatory diseases are caused by bacteria - and in this instance you have some fascinating points.
However, 1,25D increases the production of an antimicrobial peptide called cathelicidin. That is, a natural antibiotic.
I must stress again that in Europe fortification of foods and supplementation is rare than norm, and there is actually an increase in ill health since food fortification diminished here in the 70’s.
Need I point out Scotland as a good example?
I actually do know one person who has been ‘cured’ long term by vitamin D, though I will concede long term in his case is a child who’s now in his mid 20’s.
While not an autoimmune disease, I personally know this young man who had rickets and seizures corrected by supplementation of vitamin D, alongside surgical intervention on his legs due to the severity of the condition. Calcium alone had made very little impact.
Resultantly, he now doesn’t have osteomalacia, seizures or a recurrence of rickets - confirmed by blood reports.
I have no problems understanding Marshall’s hypothesis, I just believe it is incorrect and is fallible due to being based on software than public made studies on human beings.
There is an article that asserts positive effects of the MP are not proof of it’s theories: http://stuff.mit.edu/people/london/universe.htm
You also misunderstand my comment on India. I didn’t say that people in India don’t get sun anymore, I say they as a polluted country get less UVB.
Please read http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1751-1097.1996.tb01839.x
A tan is not indicative of vitamin D production. UVA makes people tan. UVB synthesizes vitamin D.
It is speculation to say that a new young generation don’t cover up the way old generations do. How many Muslims in Muslim countries do you know who dress liberally? Very few you’ll find. That’s why studies in India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Saudi Arabia, very polluted China and even America are invalid. The Mediterranean is a perfect testing ground.
Whether Bangladeshi women are veiled or not, by and large it is not speculation to say Bangladeshi women don’t go out in sparse dressing.
I hope my tone is not forceful, as I wish to be anything but. I am just not won over by this hypothesis. If anything I have some respect for what you’re doing because it helps create challenges for the view I support.
Dear Harold,
You say you have no problems grasping Marshall’s hypothesis, but your comments suggest otherwise. If you were truly familiar with the Marshall Protocol you would know that a tan absolutely promotes the production of vitamin D. None of our study subjects can get any form of sunlight without creating the vitamin D that causes symptom flares. Why else would our patients have to make such concerted efforts to protect themselves from the sun? Not to mention the fact that there are many studies showing that both UVA and UVB light make vitamin D. You can read more about sunscreens and vitamin D production in these articles:
http://bacteriality.com/2008/01/15/sunscreen/
http://bacteriality.com/2007/09/15/vitamind/#5
Also, even the US Department of Agriculture Website agrees that Rickets in not a disease caused by vitamin D deficiency. It is caused by low levels of phosphorous and calcium, a reality recently confirmed by several studies conducted at Harvard. Does it really make sense that the majority of Rickets cases occur in Africa where young children are getting abundant sunlight? The person you know who has “recovered” on vitamin D is simply extremely immunosuppressed by a very powerful steroid and his bacteria are still very much alive. Read more about Rickets here:
http://bacteriality.com/2007/09/15/vitamind/#8
Thirdly, you say Marshall’s work is not viable because his model was generated using molecular technology? That’s absurd when you consider the reality that only molecular data can provide information on the exact affinities and molecular interactions needed to fully understand chronic disease. And then you say that Marshall’s work has not been tested on human subjects? What then is the Marshall Protocol phase II study trial? It’s a trial in which literally thousands of patients are putting Marshall’s model to the test in a clinical setting. Even better they are all human subjects. Read more about the benefits of approaching medicine using molecular technology here:
http://bacteriality.com/2008/02/23/misconceptions/#5
If you insist that Indians can’t get sun because of pollution (something I think most people would consider extremely far-fetched), then there are plenty of other studies showing that people who get abundant sunlight also still often have low levels of 25-D. Take this study titled, “Low levels of vitamin D despite abundant sun exposure”
http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/92/6/2130
The reality is that the chronic disease process itself is downregulates 25-D levels. A low 25-D is NOT a sign of deficiency, it is a sign of chronic infection.
I encourage you to read more of Dr. Marshall’s papers and read more information on the study site in order to more fully understand what Marshall is putting forth.
Best,
Amy
Dear Amy,
Blacks and South Asians among others do not tan. They do however require a little longer than whites to meet their maximum day’s intake of vitamin D via UVB, but even then whites create all the vitamin D they need before turning darker.
I understand that there are people who have symptom flares related to vitamin D, linked to macrophages releasing very excessive amounts of 1,25D.
I’m not aware of any studies that suggest UVA facilitates vitamin D production, please show me these.
A perfectly logical reason as to why sunscreens fail to completely inhibit vitamin D production is that no one applies sunscreen that liberally all over their skin. You will always miss spots no matter how hard you try.
NICE (or the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence) in England and Wales classifies rickets as caused by a deficiency of calcium *and* vitamin D. This is logical due to the fact that 25D increases intestinal absorption, a small amount of calcium with a certain dosage of vitamin D is as or more effective than a large amount of calcium on it’s own. I do not believe he is immunosuppressed as immunosuppression clearly is complete inability to fight or arrest illness - yet the reverse happened in him. All blood test markers indicate so.
Since a lot of Black and Asian children in Europe have rickets - trends show it’s more common than in white counterparts - and there is no dietary sourcing problems here, it suggests that D is the missing link. Calcium in Africa where UVB is abundant, vitamin D in Europe where UVB isn’t; but both are needed together.
Molecular technology can be flawed. One wrong variable and it’s all insignificant. I also want to point out again that I said public, peer-reviewed studies - not opinions as per that BioEssays link. I could setup a website saying chewing pen caps is beneficial but who’d believe me unless my *data* was verified by peers? I’m not trying to mock, but you follow what I’m saying.
It’s clear why many people with abundant sunlight can have low levels of D, simply because very little of us live as nature intended - hunter/gathering in birthday suits - whether in low or high UVB conditions. You’ll find concrete data where lifeguards in abundant UVB areas have high vitamin D, more than the 24/7 clothed, indoor working population.
Since it’s becoming clear that most if not all people are insufficient in D, this would mean that everyone is potentially ill. I was D deficient - and wasn’t ill - and what separates me from a person who’s currently ill is my potential in future to be more likely to become a patient if I didn’t address my D status.
Even if the disease process down-regulates 25-D, why do our bodies push cholesterol into the skin for conversion? It would be prudent if our bodies shut off pushing cholesterol to the skin - yet they don’t. Same in other animals.
Another explanation of the disease process down regulating D is the fact an ill person will stay indoors more so.
Furthermore Professor Joanne Lappe proved in a PCRT that low levels of vitamin *influence* cancer risk and not the other way around.
I intend to follow Marshall’s developments from time to time but will end my participation here. What I really want to say is that despite your enthusiasm for Marshall’s work it would be unscientific to not entertain that mainstream findings on this issue have merit.
One last thing, since other animals synthesize D; one example being cats who create D3 when UVB hits the oils in their fur which they then ingest on cleaning (or by livers of prey), would they be immunosuppressing themselves? I mean does the MP have designs to offer this protocol to veterinarians say for diabetic, house bound, cats?
Best wishes,
HC.
Harold,
This discussion is going nowhere. It’s clear you still have not read much of the vital information discussed on this site and in Dr. Marshall’s papers- information that is necessary if you and I are going to have a reasonable discussion.
For one thing, BioEssays is a peer-reviewed journal, and a very prestigious one at that. So clearly you haven’t even looked at Marshall’s model of vitamin D metabolism. If you haven’t taken the time to understand his model, then how can you criticize it?
What about the fact that Marshall just gave a presentation on vitamin D at Karolinska or the fact that he will be chairing an entire session about vitamin D, the VDR, and the MP pathogenesis at the upcoming 6th International Conference on Autoimmunity. Apparently enough of his peers are interested in his work to offer him such opportunities.
And you seem unable to grasp the fact that the Marshall Protocol phase II study trial is putting Marshall’s molecular model to the test, and in thousands of human patients no less. Patients on the MP don’t experience immunopathology unless they remove vitamin D from their diets, allowing the VDR to be activated once again. Every aspect of Marshall’s model is backed up daily by living, breathing, patient data.
The rest of what you are putting forth is simply speculative dogma, the same stuff pushed forth by vitamin D proponents that I’ve heard a million times over. Believe me, I’ve heard your arguments before such as the notion that our ancestors scorched themselves in the sun. Personally, I think they had the wits to find a cave or at least a tree.
You say molecular data can’t be trusted and yet your strongest argument for why humans should be consuming vitamin D is based on a hypothetical ancestor from millions of years ago that nobody really knows even existed.
This site looks at vitamin D through a new lens, and if you are unwilling to try to adjust your viewpoint then you’d be better off posting comments on the Vitamin D Council website or somewhere else where you and everyone can all agree that vitamin D is a wonder drug, while ignoring the fact that while we increase supplementation of the secosteroid, the rate of chronic disease is escalating.
Sorry to come off as harsh, it’s just that when all your concerns are essentially addressed in articles on this site, arguing with you takes away time that I need to answer the questions of people who are open-minded towards this new research.
Best,
Amy
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